Bad actors are sowing distrust by implying that Signal is not secure. Always remember that the powers that be don’t want the public to have encrypted comms and would love to ban private messaging apps altogether. I could also be completely wrong and Signal is in fact a fed honeypot…
The code is open-source though, and I’m hoping that individuals more learned than I would surely alert us if there were any backdoors/exploits…
Bad actors are sowing distrust by implying that Signal is not secure. Always remember that the powers that be don’t want the public to have encrypted comms and would love to ban private messaging apps altogether.
Wrong logic, trying to guess what they are doing. I mean, if you were a god-level poker player, then maybe, but most people are not and god-level players lose too.
and Signal is in fact a fed honeypot
Being competitive and protected from network effects (decentralized, p2p, federation, one standard and many implementations, all that) can hurt being secure. The complexity of being both may not be practical.
The point of Signal is academic level security. It has a clear model and is not doing anything to make it more complex.
Which is why it is centralized, leading to suspicions and accusations of being a honeypot.
The code is open-source though, and I’m hoping that individuals more learned than I would surely alert us if there were any backdoors/exploits…
That’s a wrong hope in any case.
There are many things you can complain about when it comes to signal, but overall it’s a huge improvement from unencrypted messengers like discord and definitely a
stepleap in the right direction
For the people who want to use Signal but are stuck in WhatsApp land because all their contacts are on WhatsApp, you should download WhatsApp business and create an automated away message that says that you are only available via Signal and with a link to your Signal account (if you use a Signal username. ) People in my contacts are slowly switching to Signal.
Ironically having a giant security breach happen in a security focused messaging app was good advertising.
Of course in this instance the breach was not because of the app, which is a good thing I guess.
On Signal you can verify user identify, and you should absolutely do it if were to discuss national security maters.
This is not a hidden feature, I think it’s designed to prevent man in the middle attack. It also work against the “oops I accidentally added a journalist to my conversation no one should know of”, which is so dumb that no one saw this coming 😅
Dont use consumer apps for national security matters.
There was a vulnerability identified in Signal last year that caused the British to discontinue its use. I dont trust the british government but I am wary of what they are wary of.
At least it was Americans talking on an american platform. I wouldn’t be surprised if we had
frenchEuropeans leaders having occasionally this kind of discussions on Microsoft Teams or some Google chat.There was a case recently, related to Ukraine, of a general taking part in a secure video call on his hotel network and it being compromised.
“When something is made idiot-proof, they will just make better idiots.”
The chat space is problematic.
- There are a lot of apps that don’t encrypt at all (e.g. Google chat, discord, etc)
- There are apps that encrypt but they are subject to jurisdictions that can or may in the future force backdoors (e.g., Chinese apps, possibly telegram, possibly US apps in the future)
- There are apps that encrypt, are in countries that are privacy focused but are not for free (e.g., threema)
This contributes to a fragmentation that makes WhatsApp the app that-you-must-have
Sure it is supposedly encrypted but I would not bet my money that is without back doors
Whatsapp to messengers is what internet explorer was to browsers lol. Slow, bloated, unfree, universally hated, but still somehow universally used
I mean honestly, feature wise, it’s pretty good in my opinion. It has some very useful features Signal lacks (e.g. live location sharing) and it’s not slow or badly designed in my opinion.
I still prefer Signal since I don’t like Facebook, but realistically speaking WhatsApp is pretty good.
Ain’t that the truth
Good. It’s the only encrypted channel I trust right now.
So who exactly is downloading the app as a result of this latest government scandal? I’m going to guess it’s the maga crowd because they are this as an endorsement from their new king. But hopefully I’m wrong and it’s a broad sweep of different users from across the political spectrum.
Why should it matter if the new users are all magas or not?
You wouldn’t want the Signal brand to become linked to it.
“I’m on Signal, would you like to chat there?”
“What, on the MAGA Nazi app, are you joking? Of course I’m not talking to you there!”
Ideally you want a broad spectrum of people.
I know it shouldn’t make a difference and people should base their views strictly on the technical and usability aspects of the app, but real life doesn’t work that way. Perceptions matter.
TBH this is why I’ve never used Telegram.
Telegram is a great piracy app tbh.
It’s not just perception, it’s mindless tribalism and it’s a form of bigotry in itself. It’s no better than doing things to “own the libs” or whatever.
And the irony, some express this attitude on lemmy, which unlike signal is an actual platform, not a chat app, and with tankie roots to top it off.
It is what it is, I suppose.
I wouldn’t go as far as saying it’s bigotry to dislike Nazis, but you do you mate.
It matters though. Like in Germany telegram is associated with hard right wings groups. Telling someone you use telegram makes them assume that you are a part of hard right ideologies.
It’s a shame as the telegram app is really snappy. You always have to say that you are on telegram but are not right wing. Even then people can be suspicious.
Signal has been with me for a decade. Have had Matrix/Element installed for years but no one i know uses it
