• vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de
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    oh god… we have built everything on microsoft stuff and the higher ups insist that anything that legally can be hosted on the cloud be migrated to azure. This will cause us (the actual workers) untold levels of pain if it were mandated by the eu.

    I still wish it does become mandatory though

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    5 hours ago

    I think its great that Europe is looking to rely less on US tech but nothing about whats going on with Europe (especially within the EU) makes me think privacy is a focus.

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    I think many companies are basically stuck with Microsoft (Excel, Word, Teams, Sharepoint, Onedrive etc). Switching to something else is going to be a pretty serious project. It’s going to be expensive and time consuming.

    Totally worth doing IMO, but convincing the CEO is another matter. I guess we need a cautionary tale before the executives decide to reserve a few million euros for rebuilding a significant part of the IT infrastructure.

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      This is the main problem, changing the infrastructure in companies which use Windows, Certainly Microsoft EU is way more privacy focused (forced by law) than Microsoft US which use even keyloggers and sharing data with Towerdata and a lot of others. But this, even so, companies and administrations use more and more alternatives to Windows apps and services The EU has tons of good and even better alternatives to those from US corps, it’s not a tecnical problem, but an political and burocratic one for companies and administrations to change, not so for the normal user, who can easily change his setup to his like from a huge catalogue of EU soft and services.

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      4 hours ago

      Excel is the biggest hurdle to overcome. No other spreadsheet software comes close to providing the same amount of features and functionality.

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        Can confirm! Calc is fine as long as you’re not trying to do anything too advanced. Then again, when you bump into those limits, you might want to consider switching to R or Python anyway. Excel just allows you to delay that inevitability a little bit longer.

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          This is the real thing of it. By the time you reach that you shouldn’t be using a damn spreadsheet program.

          At least for greenfield set it up right now. There’s plenty of actual programs that do things theyre supposed to.

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      It’ll help when governments stop accepting or just blocking links to onedrive and sharepoint, and file formats that are not open. Then companies are forced into using alternatives instead of just blindly using microsoft, or don’t work for any government project again.

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        4 hours ago

        Now there’s a business opportunity. When companies are that screwed, they’ll start the project immediately. That’s when system migration consults get rich.

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    11 hours ago

    Yeah

    I agree with the misworded commenter

    Europe ditches US Based tech and software for stuff they control, so they can better enforce their insane privacy invasion laws better more like

    Let’s not forget most of the swill age verification legislation around the globe is originating from the EU, and that privacy/encryption focused software groups are fleeing the region (see proton) due to their mallegislation

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      11 hours ago

      Proton is leaving Switzerland afaik, to operate in the EU. You’re not wrong about the shit the EU is trying to pull with mass surveillance and de-anonymization. Yeae fornyear it geta struck down by courts, but the fuckers try and try.

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    13 hours ago

    The title rubs me the wrong way. “Private alternatives” implies the US tech isn’t privately owned.

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        Still, the title is misdirected, and it sounds like Proton trying to do marketing.

        Neither is it true that Europe is ready yet (most companies are stuck with MS products like the other commenter said) nor are all those who want to switch looking for privacy (but rather more independence from US).