Samsung has decided to proceed with the Bootloader blocking also in Europe, a move that has caused a lot of discussion. Behind this choice is a European regulation that will come into force in August 2025 and which risks changing smartphone usage in Europe forever. This is why other manufacturers may soon follow suit.
From 1 August 2025, new provisions will come into force RED Directive (Radio Equipment Directive), which redefines the compliance requirements for all radio devices sold in Europe. This is a significant change, not so much for the amount of regulations introduced, but for the effect they will have on the entire Android ecosystem. The issue revolves around three articles that impose specific protections: against network interference, personal data compromise, and digital fraud. These are, in themselves, sacrosanct rules.
But the crux comes with the interpretation prevailingEach device must ensure full compliance not only with the hardware, but also with the software that controls the radio modules. This is where the bootloader comes in. Unlocking it essentially allows you to replace the original operating system with an alternative one, such as LineageOS or GrapheneOS.
But these systems, if they modify the radio drivers even minimally, invalidate the CE certification. An uncertified device can no longer be legally marketed or used, at least according to the most stringent reading of the law.
This scenario has therefore led Samsung to protect its devices. Not on a whim, but to avoid any software modifications falling under your legal liability. If a user installs a ROM that interferes with radio frequencies or compromises communications security, the manufacturer (and in some cases the importer) may be held directly liable.
RED does not explicitly talk about unlocking the Bootloader or custom ROM, but it opens one regulatory space in which the margins for maneuver are they narrow. And in doing so, it provides a solid argument for those who have been trying for years to close the loop between hardware, software, and services. After all, customizing the operating system also means breaking away from proprietary services and, therefore, from the model that ties the user to the brand.
Samsung is just the first to move, but it’s hard to imagine it will be the only one. Starting in August 2025, it’s very likely that other manufacturers will follow suit, at least for the European market.
Do these stupid legislators not understand when they are being played for fools? Who gets to such a position without knowing what protectionism is? Unless it’s simple corruption?
Oh. I better make no mistake and update to Oneui 8 when it comes in my phone.
This is really badly written, and that particularly annoys me because the subject matter is actually important.
what an utter bullshit! will the manufacturer be also directly held liable if someone uses a phone of their brand to make a picture about me without authorization! of fucking course not!
fuck samsung, and all the manufacturers that follow suit, because this is just not needed.
but also fuck the red directive’s decision makers for their unsatiable creep of wanting ever more power over our devices! this is exactly like saying, that there is this illegal thing, and if you are not doing it, but just have the slightest ability to do it, that is also illegal. what the actual fuck! get off my fucking phone you scumbags!!
Is this also the end of Software-Defined Radio in Europe?
and by extension possibly secure router firmware like OpenWRT too?
And meshnets that don’t go through corporate infrastructure?
The EU is pretty disappointing.
PC Computers are next
This is why the big deal with TPM
Why TPM is never a removable security device
Why you can’t save your old PC with a usb TPM device,
even though they are low power serial text devicesAnd TPM itself is just the thin side of the wedge.
It will grow more and more capable as an encrypted instructions processor
Eventually applications will run enough of their code
as encrypted instructions that they will become impossible to pirate.This means application on your offline computer will be just as revocable as cloud application
and they will no longer be transferable, cryptographically tied to the processor coreHere is a taste of the future
You CAN’T Jailbreak Your PC
The days of “it’s my hardware, I’ll run what I want” are over.
TPM 2.0, Secure Boot, and Microsoft Pluton are forming a closed execution environment.You can’t replace the bootloader. You can’t flash unsigned firmware. You can’t disable the vendor-approved certificate store.Try to run an unsigned OS, and it will simply refuse to boot.
Your motherboard no longer listens to you.
It listens to Microsoft and OEMs.
You Will Own Nothing, and Even That Nothing Is Tied to Your Old PC
TPM stores your encryption keys in a non-exportable way.
Your files, apps, and even your OS activation are now bound to your specific machine.Want to move them to another system?
Too bad. The TPM won’t let you.
Even if you own both devices.The machine is yours. The data, software, and identity within it are not.
Installing Linux Will Be Illegal (Functionally, If Not Yet Legally)
Secure Boot + Remote Attestation is the death knell for freedom-focused OSes.
Your distro doesn’t carry the "right" signature? Blocked. You modify the kernel for performance or privacy? No longer attested. You write your own OS? You don’t get to boot. It’s not banned in law. It’s banned by cryptographic gatekeeping.
Digital preservation will be technically impossible.
Encrypted execution + hardware-tied software =
No way to archive.
No way to emulate.
No way to restore.Games, apps, creative tools, all gone when the keys expire or the vendor shuts down.
We won’t just lose software. We’ll lose entire cultural eras.
It’s like that Apple ad crushing musical instruments but for your entire digital life
https://adage.com/video/crush-ipad-pro-apple/ (I couldn’t find it unedited on youtube sorry)
You Have No Mouth and Can’t Say NO
Vendor lock-in is no longer a commercial strategy.
It’s cryptographic reality.You can’t deny updates. You can’t run unsigned code. You can’t refuse attestation.Because your software won’t run without it.
The PC has become a compliance terminal. Saying "no" is no longer supported behavior.
A hardware-enforced, cryptographically sealed cage.
Your freedom to compute is being revoked—quietly, efficiently, irreversibly. The illusion of ownership is maintained only until enforcement becomes total. This isn’t theory. It’s shipping now.If we don’t fight back, there will be no root access left to reclaim.
What a fucking bleak run down. But it is the direction things are barreling towards.
Writing this the warning of Cory Doctorow about an upcoming “War on General Computing” was ringing in my head !
And also this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EmstuO0Em8
But he doesn’t talk about the TPM and cryptoprocessor threat or the “war on general computing”, it was in another video that I can’t find right now
I also can’t find the Apple Ad where they crush a piano and other instruments of creation under a giant press to make an ipad
I remember seeing that ad. It was super depressing. I hate what the tech world is coming to, why my next phone will be a dumb phone, I’m trying to buy dvds and keeping my circa 2017 vehicle running for as long as possible
The future is here but it’s not evenly distributed.
Hopefully we can stay alive in the future’s shadow.
They probably want that, but also at the same time, that would kill software development.
They would like it if only their employees were the only priesthood of all software development
Only approved AIs and humans carrying a corporately issued developer license will be allowed to develop software.
But if it doesn’t run Linux I am not going to buy it
Microsoft is fine if you don’t buy computers anymore
It won’t miss you in particularThis is what’s going to happen with PCs
https://lemmy.ml/post/33992840/20208076And the Linux foundation will just sit by letting it happen? Or Valve for that matter, they appear to have anticipated this risk over a decade ago.
Yes, Valve saw this possibility back in the days of Windows 8
But look at phones, the supply chains mostly delivery bootloader locked and unlockable devices.
And now the latest windows require TPM 2.0
It requires TPM 2.0 to be married to the CPU, non user removable
Microsoft Pluton is an early version of a crypto processor.
They are putting the pieces in place slowly
and they have all kinds of good reasons
“why this isn’t something you should worry about”RISC-V’s time to shine! (IIRC it is open source instruction set).
And time to hold on to old devices. They’ll become like old cars: the only ones the owner can fully control.
It is an open source architecture but it doesn’t prevent the OEM from adding anything to it to prevent user from doing anything on it. They can add TPM, locked bootloader with fixed signing key stored on board. They can add microprocessor inaccessible to anyone but OEM. They can add spyware, malware. All this without any need for declaring it or need to make it open source.
The only change RISC V brings is there is no need to pay for a hardware architecture, benefitting the manufacturer. Rather than bringing freedom to the user.
RISC-V you are our only hope,
only use open source BIOS
Never factory bootloader-lock !
If a user installs a ROM that interferes with radio frequencies
Do any “ROMs” or linuxes do this? Seems like you could get an “illegal USB bluetooth/wifi dongle” for shenanigans purposes instead. This all seems like such a pointless distraction that can only be to ensure that manufacturer backdoors are ensured as unescapable.
I have never installed a ROM that touched the radio.
In fact most ROMs I’ve used warned against touching the radio because of the risk of damaging the device.
sorry for Gemini link to prompt below, but google itself doesn’t provide any top page links to answering the question, or questions about “software wifi to radio conversion”. GrapheneOS does not provide the functionality. Seems like only process to transmit/receive at a different band is to use hardware that bridges from wifi signal to radio signal.
modify phone wifi frequency to arbitrary frequency
It is generally not possible to directly modify the WiFi frequency on a smartphone to an arbitrary frequency. Smartphones are designed to operate within the standard WiFi frequency bands (2.4 GHz and 5 GHz) and their corresponding channels. While you can influence which band your phone connects to (e.g., prioritizing 5 GHz for faster speeds), you can’t arbitrarily set the frequency. Why you can’t set an arbitrary frequency: Hardware limitations: Smartphones are built with hardware that supports specific frequency ranges (2.4 GHz and 5 GHz in most cases). Protocol compliance: WiFi communication relies on specific protocols (like 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac/ax) that are tied to these standard frequency bands. Router configuration: While you can configure your router to broadcast different SSIDs for each band (e.g., “MyWiFi_2.4GHz” and “MyWiFi_5GHz”), the phone’s connection is still limited to the supported frequencies. What you CAN do: Prioritize a band: You can influence which band your phone connects to by adjusting settings on the phone (if available) or by configuring your router to have separate SSIDs for each band. Choose the right band: For faster speeds, prioritize the 5 GHz band when it’s available. For better range and wall penetration, the 2.4 GHz band is better. Optimize router settings: Ensure your router is set up to broadcast on the desired bands and consider channel selection for optimal performance. In short, while you can influence the band your phone connects to, you cannot arbitrarily set the WiFi frequency on your smartphone.
After RTFAing, this seems to be Samsung just using an excuse to lock down their phone, rather than any specific order from EU telling them to.
WTF just happened in Europe in the last few months. We used to be some sort of (dimmly lit) beacon of user freedom and privacy considerations. Now, I know there’s been a push for new legislations that basically fuck individual privacy over, but last I checked it was just a proposal. And now we’re doing a fucking 1260° turn toward full stanglehold on everything.
There’s also this article from yesterday: Austria legalises state spyware amidst strong opposition
i wonder what changed. these regulations are certainly a threat. they justified it with the “threat of (islamistic) terrorism”, though i don’t know what’s really going on there.
Big war in 2027
What’s really worrying me is this:
i.e. wars are waged because somebody is bored
Lame, not boring. Some people believe in war.
Supposedly this time it was pride that has prevented peace, I would say on both sides.
With Russia on Nato’s side, there would be another Eight-Nation Alliance and China would be split, however ethical that would be.
Vladimir Putin wanted Russia to join Nato but did not want his country to have to go through the usual application process and stand in line “with a lot of countries that don’t matter”, according to a former secretary general of the transatlantic alliance.
George Robertson, a former Labour defence secretary who led Nato between 1999 and 2003, said Putin made it clear at their first meeting that he wanted Russia to be part of western Europe. “They wanted to be part of that secure, stable prosperous west that Russia was out of at the time,” he said […]
https://feddit.org/post/16410454/8030302
I think at the deepest level the elite still believes in the Iliad and they want this war.
As funny as the comic is, I am convinced that it will never get to that point, because an asshole with a thirst for power will always exist and be stronger than a bored asshole. Therefore war will keep, as it has always been, being motivated by power.
It seems like “democracies” worldwide are taking advantage of Trump’s ascension and pushing these policies under the cover of night.
this is more or less the impression I get. Like all the shitheads are seeing just how much disgusting illegal shit trump is getting away with and thinking “I could do that too!”
I think it’s the rise of all the nazis - Lepens in France, Hitlerjugend Jimmy in Sweden, Orban,…
Horrible ignorant propaganda infection to say this. Especially including Orban in your list. This is center, EU controlling, parties doing this. The “bad parties” are ultra conservative and anti immigrants, but their truly establishment-fear inducing characteristic is that they are anti-NATO warmongering. CDU, in Germany, has no problem imposing “populist” AfD inspired anti-immigration/muslim laws.
These laws/policies are not “populist fascism” support for oppressing liberals. No one is demanding their phones be locked, and supporting political candidates who will do this. This is just expansion of “Republicrat” establishment fascism that no one ever asked for.
You saying “this is all Putin’s fault” is just part of establishment fascist narrative of “you must be oppressed by war only budget, or Russia wins”.
I’m not so sure about this. According to this article, in austria at least, it was the SPÖ (center) and ÖVP (center-conservative) parties that voted for surveillance, but the Grüne (greens/center-left) and FPÖ (far-right/nazis) that voted against it.
It would be far better to say the party that is bought and sold by corporations
Good luck applying this sorta lockdown to PCs.
Secure boot force enabled with preset certificates would essentially do that.
Some systems can bypass secure boot
Only if the motherboard vendor allows you to. Imagine buying a Dell or Asus laptop and being forced to only run Windows.
So on most motherboards secure boot is just fake secure boot to satisfy windows?
Except that would require a rewrite of the PC spec which I’m not sure would work out too well given the existence of loose mainboards for custom builds which ship with no OS by default and expect you to supply the OS yourself, ditto for niche manufacturers like Framework who also offer the option of letting you supply your own OS.
I seem to recall owning a microsoft tablet that could not have secure boot disabled. Why do you suppose it would be hard when (much like phones) there are already products (like chromebooks) that have done this?
Forcing SecureBoot platform-wide would kill the loose PC parts market.
Loose mainboards don’t ship with an OS by default and typically ship with SecureBoot disabled by default as well, it would be pretty hard to force an OS on something that has no OS installed by default unless it’s forced in ROM.
Although, I suppose lose PC parts could simply be banned and custom PC builds could be criminalized, and only completely soldered-down prebuilts could be legally allowed to be sold in their borders with force-enabled SecureBoot and Pluton blocking non-Windows OSes.
…Right as the EU is trying to get away from Windows for their government stuff.
Chat message scanning can come in October, age verification is also introduced in various countries. Things are getting serious.
The EU doesn’t get to point at Trump’s authoritarianism and feel all smug when they do this shit. Sorry.
Wait - is this about all radio devices or only mobile connectivity ones?
I.e., is WiFi affected as well? Or does it only affect internet that you access through your carrier?
The article says:
From 1 August 2025, new provisions will come into force RED Directive (Radio Equipment Directive), which redefines the compliance requirements for all radio devices sold in Europe.
Which technically would also affect WiFi.
layman don’t understand how much of a crime this is.
Layman: “Does it have five gees or four like my old one?”
IIRC they’re already doing this in China. I got hold of a chinese phone a while ago, and there was no way to install your own OS on it, you just had to use what came pre-installed, and i don’t know how much state-sponsored surveillance was on that.
Wait, what does that mean for USB LTE devices? Devices that you can attack to a desktop computer to give you mobile internet. Last time i checked, they’re widely available.
Would these become illegal as well?
