• CAVOK@lemmy.worldOP
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    4 days ago

    Probably bad.

    The reason why I doubt that Ukraine would attack Moscow on Victory Day is that the risk of killing innocents would be high, which could (would) make Russians rally around the flag.

    I do like the threat though. Putin and Russia shouldn’t be confident that Ukraine won’t attack, which causes a dilemma for them.

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      4 days ago

      I agree that the threat is a smart move. Either Russia command responds, showing the population that everything is not going as well as they pretend. Or they do nothing, in which case they have deal with the backlash of ‘Oh, why did you do nothing, they told you they would do this’ if Ukraine attacks.

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      4 days ago

      Putin and Russia shouldn’t be confident that Ukraine won’t attack

      A parade is still a parade, an attack would likely kill civilians attending and definitely be a warcrime.

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            3 days ago

            Why? I mean… yeah, i see the strategic dangers of doing so (including making Putin something of a martyr), but otherwise? I think at this point in the war (or the world) nobody really cares any more about the rules and customs of war.

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                3 days ago

                Ok, let me ask you a little question about history: Was it a war crime to bomb… say… the Ruhr valley in Germany during WWII?

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                  3 days ago

                  With regular bombs targeting military factories and logistical hubs at night? No, because those are military targets and there was minimal risk to civilians. Firebombing residential areas? Absolutely.

                  The worst part is, killing shittons of civilians isn’t even useful. When Germany shifted bombing from airfields and military targets to terror-bombing london, they gave the airfields and factories breathing room to rebuild the RAF and eventually win the battle of Britain. Murdering 20% of the population of Korea north of the 38th didn’t allow the US to push up, poisoning the center of vietnam to cause a famine and sending B-52s to carpet bomb the north did nothing to break the Vietnamese resistance. Bombing hospitals and weddings in Afghanistan didn’t make the Afghan people decide to stop resisting.

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                    3 days ago

                    With regular bombs targeting military factories and logistical hubs at night? No, because those are military targets and there was minimal risk to civilians.

                    I bet - if she was still around - my grandma would have a good laugh at the “minimal risk” part…

                    But besides that: Bombing a parade where high ranking military personal and valuable military hardware is present is then surely ok - especially if you consider how much more precisely targeted a drone strike is compared to bombing raids in WWII

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          3 days ago

          Disrupting a parade with colored smoke is not a war crime. Blowing up a bunch of civilians at a parade is.