Young adults are more likely than older Americans to believe that AI will create economic gains that benefit everyone, but they are also more likely to worry that AI will replace jobs they depend upon
AI isn’t the problem, it is just an excuse to abuse and gaslight people. If AI didn’t exist, some other card would be played.
Instead of destroying the looms, we should take them over and make our own products. AI can be incredibly useful and might allow cottage industries and smaller communities to become strong enough to contest the powers above us. The big constraints is just the affordability of local hardware and the development of sufficiently powerful models.
Things are moving quickly, especially in the local AI space. Two years ago, fitting a 70b was difficult in my hardware, which had 4k context capacity, could take an hour to output, really sucked at calculating numbers, and was censored. Now a 122b can be uncensored, allow for 256k context, takes less than two minutes to output an lengthy response, and is much smarter.
What I am saying, is that we shouldn’t reject the power of AI. We should use it ourselves, and become the equals of the elite. If we foolishly abandon power, the wealthy will just continue bullying us.
No local models will be as good as those offered by big corporations, ever. It’s just not physically possible. Even worse, you don’t seem to understand that running a model is not the issue, training it is.
Regardless, even if any of this wasn’t true, running LLMs on prem is something that’s only achievable by very few people worldwide. It would take generations for poorer countries to catch up, once again, so this AI race is effectively another attempt at exacerbating inequality, and frankly, it’s giving some strong “war for oil” vibes, people in richer countries happily ignoring what’s going on elsewhere because they are getting nicer things.
I have 128gb of DDR4 RAM, a 4090, and a 3060. While certainly not weak, my computer is some generations behind. People, real people, can run a model inside their homes. Provided you limit the context and get a midrange quantization, you can run a Qwen3.6 35b on a midrange gaming PC.
Given time, we will someday run DOOM Eternal in our pockets, and be able to talk with the demons.
This is exactly the kind of cluelessness I was talking about. Again, training is way more expensive than running models, and very obviously a rig that costs several thousands of dollars is something not many people have access to.
I agree and would add for others reason here that the Luddites issue was not the looms they destroyed, but the out of control inequality that the government was not addressing. We need to stop blaming AI as a society for job loss and instead get the governments to help with the transition which so far they have largely been inactive on.
Job losses are a consequence of AI spending, not productivity increases. This is an economic issue. Everyone with a little money is trying to ride the wave, regardless of the consequences, while big corporations are positioning themselves for long term dominance.
You do realize that you can use an AI model for many mundane things? Accounting, coding, scheduling, That leaves humans free to do human things like socializing and learning. The reason why Musk and company is so powerful, is because they can use their wealth to delegate tasks away from themselves. Time is a resource, and the wealthy are able to save much of it by not having to do the things that the ordinary person does.
This assumes that the owning class will let you make use of that time, which is and always has been untrue.
Also, I find it incredible that “coding” and “accounting” are now “mundane things”. Get off that ivory tower of yours, you definitely need to breath some thicker air.
AI isn’t the problem, it is just an excuse to abuse and gaslight people. If AI didn’t exist, some other card would be played.
Instead of destroying the looms, we should take them over and make our own products. AI can be incredibly useful and might allow cottage industries and smaller communities to become strong enough to contest the powers above us. The big constraints is just the affordability of local hardware and the development of sufficiently powerful models.
Things are moving quickly, especially in the local AI space. Two years ago, fitting a 70b was difficult in my hardware, which had 4k context capacity, could take an hour to output, really sucked at calculating numbers, and was censored. Now a 122b can be uncensored, allow for 256k context, takes less than two minutes to output an lengthy response, and is much smarter.
What I am saying, is that we shouldn’t reject the power of AI. We should use it ourselves, and become the equals of the elite. If we foolishly abandon power, the wealthy will just continue bullying us.
can we all stop using the phrase “the elite”. Elite to whom? That’s their fucking word, they are not “elite”. fucking, gross word use imo.
No local models will be as good as those offered by big corporations, ever. It’s just not physically possible. Even worse, you don’t seem to understand that running a model is not the issue, training it is.
Regardless, even if any of this wasn’t true, running LLMs on prem is something that’s only achievable by very few people worldwide. It would take generations for poorer countries to catch up, once again, so this AI race is effectively another attempt at exacerbating inequality, and frankly, it’s giving some strong “war for oil” vibes, people in richer countries happily ignoring what’s going on elsewhere because they are getting nicer things.
I have 128gb of DDR4 RAM, a 4090, and a 3060. While certainly not weak, my computer is some generations behind. People, real people, can run a model inside their homes. Provided you limit the context and get a midrange quantization, you can run a Qwen3.6 35b on a midrange gaming PC.
Given time, we will someday run DOOM Eternal in our pockets, and be able to talk with the demons.
This is exactly the kind of cluelessness I was talking about. Again, training is way more expensive than running models, and very obviously a rig that costs several thousands of dollars is something not many people have access to.
I agree and would add for others reason here that the Luddites issue was not the looms they destroyed, but the out of control inequality that the government was not addressing. We need to stop blaming AI as a society for job loss and instead get the governments to help with the transition which so far they have largely been inactive on.
What do you mean by help transition society? Help society transition to what exactly?
Job losses are a consequence of AI spending, not productivity increases. This is an economic issue. Everyone with a little money is trying to ride the wave, regardless of the consequences, while big corporations are positioning themselves for long term dominance.
Sorry but you’re delusional. Your chatbot girlfriend is not going to turn you or anyone else into the equal of Epstein or Elon Musk.
And I don’t want to be “the equal” of Nazi cockroach pedophiles. That’s a downgrade for me.
You do realize that you can use an AI model for many mundane things? Accounting, coding, scheduling, That leaves humans free to do human things like socializing and learning. The reason why Musk and company is so powerful, is because they can use their wealth to delegate tasks away from themselves. Time is a resource, and the wealthy are able to save much of it by not having to do the things that the ordinary person does.
This assumes that the owning class will let you make use of that time, which is and always has been untrue.
Also, I find it incredible that “coding” and “accounting” are now “mundane things”. Get off that ivory tower of yours, you definitely need to breath some thicker air.