happy to selfhost immich
I’m intentionaly letting it overfill
Imagine how much of Earth’s storage space is marketing emails that no one reads.
Whats the fucking point if they only let you attach a 25mb or smaller file.
wtf do they need a ph# for? theyve got your email and sms ids(same as ph#). a ph# just seems like a bit of sales pitch food
THATS THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE STILL USE GMAIL! Proton Mail has 1 free gb, I didn’t use it when I had the free plan.
Unfortunately not, the main reason the majority of people use gmail is that they don’t even know there are other email providers.
“You have 15 GB of space as long as you’re not using it all”
“You used 80% of your free 15GB, upgrade for more storage. Only $9.99/mo… I mean 5.99/month.”
“Wait it’s $0.36/month for 3 months.”
“No email for you cause you used all 15G. Pay up.”
Paraphrase from tactics that they are trying for me to sign up. Heck never.
New users.
Even still, I moved off Gmail years ago. I keep my Google fingerprint minimal.
I blame Microslop
Pay for webmail.
Be the product.
Choose the form of the destructor.
Why not both? /s
We already see $1,500 TVs showing ads.
I see a Ghostbusters quote, I upvote
5GB is plenty for emails, won’t be an issue for 99% of people.
THE problem with google’s storage is that they actively mislead consumers:
- They bother customers during setup and after with: “Do you want to backup your device?” To which a considerable amount of people react to as “Yeah ofcourse I want that!”
- Google does not show any indication where this backup goes or about the eventual payment so people just forget about it.
- After some time their gmail and photos app will start to complain: “YOUR STORAGE IS FULL” - with constant notifications. And their Gmail stops working so they can’t receive emails anymore.
- These regular people confuse ‘storage’ with internal storage so they start looking for ways to expand their internal storage, which obviously doesn’t do anything.
- Eventually they give up and either pay google the ransom or make a new email.
This is the real dark pattern behind their “free cloud”
ive seen people with full gmail accounts and thounds of unread emails
Worst part is every job, educational institution, legal institution, will send you PDFs to your gmail.
What a racket, if my father was a bit more sane…
…I’d have him prepare me for actual war. He can run in complete silence in a forest.
It is interesting. I’ve deleted almost all my emails from my Gmail account and it just won’t go bellow 50% full. There is no way to see what is taking up the space.
My mother on the other hand has 3000+ emails and it’s at like 15% full. They absolutely do this on purpose.
Did you ever use Google Photos to store your pics? That is what has my Gmail/google storage at 99% full, even though it’s been over a decade since I used it and I disconnected it from all my accounts… except apparently not. You can go through the steps to disconnect, it looks like it works, but it doesn’t. I currently have an iPhone, and if I try to delete all the photos in Google Photos, it will still sync with my phone and also delete the same photos on my phone. No matter what I do, I can’t severe that connection. And so I’m stuck at 99%
Are you sure you’re not using anything else google related that might clog it up? That’s what I’m getting at. Check google one for a breakdown.
likely backing up to your google cloud with photos, files, essays,etc.
Yes, backing up your photos is the killer.
And they don’t even store original quality
It is honestly. My Gmail is 16 years old and I’ve only used a third of a gig.
and if you need more you’re probably using a dedicated mail client anyway
oh yea they hide thier back up location very well, you have to go digging in your google drive and click on the backup/cloud option to see where it went.
They really think they can get away with anything don’t they… All the mainstream companies do.
When have they been wrong?
Anyone else remember when Google bragged about never being worried about storage as you watched your storage free count, grow and grow and grow.
TBF when Iade an account there to check it out back then, they offered about 1GB. But that was huge for the time back then
I remember when they offered 1GB, was at a time when I think the standard hotmail was like either 10 MB or 100 MB, and they made the announcement on april 1st.
Then did it via an invite system.
You know now that I think of it, I wonder what would have happened if google plus had used a similar playbook to that. Seems like with gmail google knew the “exclusivity” was a selling point. Facebook grew big via similar strategies (only these special college students can get it, ok a few more colleges can), meanwhile google plus was "HEY, USE GOOGLE PLUS NOW, Oh you aren’t using it yet, we made your youtube account a google plus account now, so now you have an account please use it now!
While social media in general is toxic. I do feel design wise google plus was leaps and bounds ahead of facebook at the time. Circles is IMO the feature that would have made social media actually semi-useful. (IE post your video game content to gamer friends, fun activities to friends, and not putting any job risking content to bosses etc…).
Yes, I thought Google Plus was way better, but that didn’t matter since exactly everyone used Facebook back then.
I liked Google Circles. Was sad it went away. It definitely made sure that my interactions/upvotes on Aunt Nancy’s account wasn’t seen by MIL who hates her guts and deems my interaction with her a sign of betrayal.
Google Plus was invite only in the beginning, though
I think so, I don’t remember how long that was. But I do distinctly remember the era where it was shoved down everyone’s throat, which I have to say stuck with people far more. Telling people that they must use it, generated so much hatred for it it was insane.
They tried that with Google Wave.
I don’t think marketing was wave’s problem… nobody understood what the hell wave was. I used it for a few months… and I can’t tell you what the hell it was.
Also got into and and used it, I’d describe it as Gdocs multiplayer beta
And that was the end of the wave for invite started social media.
Yeah, the whole ‘you now have a mandatory account’ made for a mad scramble of how to disable every possible scrap of data sent to them. It may have been some small push into the self hosting game too.
Fellow OG. I remember. The day it was close to hitting 5gb I was watching it like an every guy watches their car odometer as it hits some magic number. It was worthy of celebration.
1gb back then was 5x the allowed size for my exchange mailbox at work. HUGE!
Remember Dont Be Evil???
Rotfl
I wonder if every phone has a Mossad style detonation trigger hidden inside, and if it is rigged to blow at a certain time.
they went from that to datamining your emails and your google storage, now they invested so much into AI, they want sell even more services.
I remember. I’m also paying Google $2 a month for 100gb. Fucking bastards. But can you point me to 100GB for less?
You’re going to have a hard time beating $2/mo unless you roll it into something else like blackblaze ($100/year for unlimited storage), Microsoft office 365 ($100/year with 1 TB of OneDrive), etc. If your space is going to photos, the speed and responsiveness of Google photos far outpaces some of the alternatives (cough cough OneDrive).
Self hosting is a viable alternative if you’re interested in having more control/local storage or if you are interested in this kind of thing and want to do it/dabble in it as a hobby.
I personally built a NAS, which will take far too long to amortize vs just paying $2/mo. I chose this route because I value a local backup and because a NAS can a bit of a lifestyle product. “It can double as a server!”. Sounds fun, but I would want to build the thing I host which will also take time so… You could potentially build a NAS that will average out to $2 or less a month if you have spare parts or score some used parts cheap. Odds are that route could also be used for self hosting.
Microslop OneDrive wants $20/m for 1T. However you slice it, we pay for them to back stuff up on a cloud that we used to just back up on our own physical storage. This also gives them access to all our info/pics etc to scan for their AI bots.
50372364.45 GB and growing. It will always be free.
What have you GOT in there, damn
If you did the annual security ‘check-up’ you got an extra 2GB (maybe it was just 1GB and I did it a couple of years).
I mean, OneDrive did the same, except their tactic was just to delete your files instead of store them, instead of increasing it…
Is Proton okay?
as long as you pay them
Yes, unless you read into the missinfo campaings. They will follow your local laws, but you can control how much info they have on you.
The market is saturated and “don’t be evil” was a long, long time ago…
So not giving away 15GB of free storage is evil? How does that even work…?
I thought being evil was about doing, like, evil things?
It’s not about the 15 GB but there was a time where Gmail was new and fancy - and Google’s slogan “Don’t be evil” as a young and uprising company. As the market got saturated, the business model (or the direction) changed and it’s not only Google, M$ also did reduce free space in OneDrive after many years some time ago.
“Don’t be evil” was just the referral to this slogan and I don’t care if it’s 15 GB or 30 GB today as I choose to pay for the services these days instead of just relying on any free(mium) model.
I agree that Google removing “don’t be evil” is bad. But mentioning that change in this context is a non sequitur.
