So you’re ok with people proving to the government that they got things legally and you just have an issue with which government representative does the checking? It’s a valid complaint but personally I think it’s a minor issue.
How is it a minor issue? There’s a difference between a cop asking you to prove you own things and a government official asking you to file taxes. One is a member of a violent arm of the government which enforces laws and the other is a bureaucrat.
The government doesn’t just ask you to file your taxes. They can investigate what you own and ask you to prove how you got it. They can use prosecutors and police to conduct searches and investigations. The police can also inform the bureaucrat that they suspect you’re braking tax laws. And yes, if the police see someone carrying a bunch of catalytic converters they can stop them and ask to prove how they got them. You’re talking about it like police investigating ownership is something new and dangerous while in reality it’s pretty standard thing. They will investigate all sort of suspected activity and carrying large amounts of cash or often stolen items can be one of them. This “violent arm of the government” interacts with people all the time, pretending they are some kill squads that should not get close to people unless they have evidence of crime or something is silly.
All laws apply to everyone, but not everyone is subjected to them. If you don’t have a drivers licence you’re not subject to laws related to driving a car.
Get better cops? I might not trust every cop out there, but I trust that the system will hold them to the standard that we require from them. So far it seems to work here in the Nordics.
Why should people have to prove that they got things legally to the police?
Because of taxes. It’s pretty standard practice.
Those aren’t submitted to the police
So you’re ok with people proving to the government that they got things legally and you just have an issue with which government representative does the checking? It’s a valid complaint but personally I think it’s a minor issue.
How is it a minor issue? There’s a difference between a cop asking you to prove you own things and a government official asking you to file taxes. One is a member of a violent arm of the government which enforces laws and the other is a bureaucrat.
The government doesn’t just ask you to file your taxes. They can investigate what you own and ask you to prove how you got it. They can use prosecutors and police to conduct searches and investigations. The police can also inform the bureaucrat that they suspect you’re braking tax laws. And yes, if the police see someone carrying a bunch of catalytic converters they can stop them and ask to prove how they got them. You’re talking about it like police investigating ownership is something new and dangerous while in reality it’s pretty standard thing. They will investigate all sort of suspected activity and carrying large amounts of cash or often stolen items can be one of them. This “violent arm of the government” interacts with people all the time, pretending they are some kill squads that should not get close to people unless they have evidence of crime or something is silly.
They don’t investigate people randomly.
People won’t have to. Criminals though…
Criminals are people. To act otherwise or to reduce their rights is the wedge issue of tyrants.
My bad, I should have said “ordenary people”.
How do you determine if someone is a criminal? Also, pretty sure the law in post applies to everyone.
All laws apply to everyone, but not everyone is subjected to them. If you don’t have a drivers licence you’re not subject to laws related to driving a car.
Everyone is subject to laws related to driving a car. They’re not going to let you off the hook just because you don’t have a licence.
Yeah, that was my point? The laws apply, but you will never have to think about them.
Idk man. I don’t trust the cops to act in the interest of the people.
Get better cops? I might not trust every cop out there, but I trust that the system will hold them to the standard that we require from them. So far it seems to work here in the Nordics.
Good for you guys ig?