What’s the difference for a real user between using X11 or Wayland nowdays? I haven’t found anything useful on the internet, so I’m asking you. Internet articles on the topic (and about WMs too) seem to be advertising slop since they explain anything but the real things. Also, if anyone used the XLibre fork, I would love to hear about your experience with it.

  • OwOarchist@pawb.social
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    2 days ago

    We had a long transitioning period and some things didn’t work for a while or were missing. I’d say it’s ready by now.

    Do things like xdotool and xinput still work?

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      1 day ago

      Uinput and libinput are the proper tools and they both work.

      Also, the keyboard configuration is done with xkb

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      The x is the clue in those programs. They are tools to interact with x11. There will be tools to interact with Wayland, or there will be hacks to get x programs to sort of work with Wayland.

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        There will be tools to interact with Wayland

        I don’t really like the hypothetical sound of this.

        xdotool is essential for keeping some of my basic hardware usable.

        (Yeah … more and more, I think I’m going to be a very late adopter of Wayland. I was planning on Debian Stable for my next install anyway…)

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          15 hours ago

          Yeah, I mean x11 isn’t Wayland. They aren’t the same. Changing from x11 to Wayland will require change in multiple ways, but I believe once you have worked through the change, you won’t see much difference in day to day usage. But the beauty of Linux is you have the choice. You can use x11 if you prefer. Just be aware the majority are moving to Wayland, so x11 will get less development and Wayland more, and I imagine there will be a point in the distant future where x11 will be a lot of effort to run.

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          xdotool is essential for keeping some of my basic hardware usable.

          That’s a good sign that you may not want to upgrade to Wayland on that hardware.