• unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
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    8 days ago

    Its really not biting anyone in the ass. We dont actually have any problems with our energy production, its just corrupt politicians inventing shit. Getting rid of nuclear has saved us many billions of euros in taxpayer money.

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      7 days ago

      We dont actually have any problems with our energy production

      Because we exported industries, kept electricity prices higher than necessary which prevented more people from switching to electric vehicles and we don’t have the data centers to keep up with AI and will maintain our dependency on the US.

      https://feddit.org/post/34851024

      As artificial intelligence becomes foundational to economic output and military power alike, technological dependence may overtake security as Washington’s greatest leverage, leaving even a more militarily autonomous Europe bound to the United States.

      No problems at all.

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        7 days ago

        Wow this makes me sad. Are people really so naive that they just read shit like this and believe it? Putting the words “artificial intelligence” and “economic output” in the same sentence like that is one of the dumbest things i can imagine. The entire AI sector is a giant financial human centipede feeding itself on its own excrement. Sad to see that people still haven’t figured that out when its all public information. AI is the worst financial bubble to exist in modern history and you are falling for the most obvious lie if you believe the stuff you quoted. I wish you were trolling but it doesn’t seem like you are.

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          7 days ago

          Even if it is a bubble, AI works as a search engine and speeds up work. The US have restricted Mythos 5. This should influence time to market enough that it is a strategic advantage.

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            AI works as a search engine and speeds up work

            Wow as search engines, a thing that was invented and perfected decades ago and has since only been made worse artificially to sell adspace?

            And no it does indeed not significantly speed up work as plenty of studies have shown. Its just very good at tricking people into thinking that it does while actually trading quality for speed, requiring later intervention that will cancel out any earlier speed gains. AI will also not replace you, it will just trick your boss into thinking that it can replace you. We have seen examples of this everywhere in the world where companies either go bankrupt right away or have to re-hire all the workers they “replaced” because it just doesnt work.

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              6 days ago

              It doesn’t speed up every work, but that’s like the steam engine didn’t speed up everything. If AI can hack networks faster than humans then whoever uses AI will gain an information advantage.

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      8 days ago

      Did you read the article? Or even the headline of the article you posted your comment to?

      You’re firing up coal firing plants (while also paying way more for your energy than France).

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      8 days ago

      News to me… everything I read is that you guys are having an energy crisis

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        8 days ago

        Welcome to post-factual reality where it’s all about selling a narrative to people dumb enough to ignore actual facts.

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          8 days ago

          GERMAN MINISTRY MULLS RAMPING UP COAL,-FIRED PLANTS - sounds like energy crisis to me

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            Of course it does. You have already demonstrated your propaganda-induced brain-damage when you argued that cutting nuclear, the most expensive way to produce electricity, somehow increased energy costs.

            So it’s not at all surprising that a “We reject (and block and sabotage) cheap renewable energy and storgae to focus on expensive fossil fuels to [somehow, magically…] reduce costs”-statement of a corrupt government paid by fossil fuel lobbyists makes sense for you.

            The actual reality is the opposite: They are trying to establish the narrative of an energy crisis so they can justify using more fossil fuels. All to increase the profits of fossil fuel companies paying them. Then, when the costs go up even more, they will tell you that those evil renewables are to blame and we just need to burn more of the expensive coal and gas. And as you obviously lost contact to reality already, you will believe them and happily keep fighting against cheap green energy.

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              Do you know anyone that works in the energy sector, like anyone that is an expert in maintaining the power grid and electricity? You do not, you are making things up and you don’t actually know how much things cost, especially in the winter!

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                Do you know anyone that works in the energy sector

                Yes.

                like anyone that is an expert in maintaining the power grid and electricity

                Yes

                You do not

                Oh, so that wasn’t a question and you just wanted to speak some more about the symptoms of your brain rot. Well…

                you don’t actually know how much things cost, especially in the winter!

                Yeah, sure. Reality is lying, facts aren’t real, economic figures are wrong… and the expensive energy sources are actually the cheap ones and one of the few countries actually highly autonomous with reserve capicities held back to supply themselves and several neighbours at the same time is suffering from an energy crisis.

                Where have I heard that one before? Oh, yes… in the right-wing propaganda media that spend the last few years hallucinating about blackouts any moment now™. The same morons telling funny tales about Germany’s total on French nuclear power when in reality less than 4% of the total power was imported, the vast majority in renewables from nordic countries. The same morons that ranted against heat pumps for years (because “who doesn’t even understand how that magic is supposed to work” - paraphrasing but not really far from their actual coverage). The same morons that now loudly scream about EVs and how we really, really need to stick to combustion engines if we want to save the car industry (and civilisation!!)…

                Guess I know where you get the shit you mistake for information.

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                  8 days ago

                  Okay. So why are prices up in Germany? Do you think people just raise prices for fun? You understand how supply and demand works? Or is that also a big lie?

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                    8 days ago

                    Mainly gas power plants getting more expensive due to the Iran war. The price is determined by the last power plant needed to fulfill demand, which usually is a gas power plant.

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                    7 days ago

                    Prices go up because companies can get rich.

                    Oil and gas prices increase and the energy costs go up, oil and gas prices go down and energy costs stay mostly the same. Oil and gas prices are expected to increase in the future (see: Iran war) and the prices go up instantly. When the oil costs actually start to increase the companies start crying crocodile tears and the government reduces taxes on fuel to allegedly take off pressure from consumers… and the companies still increase the price, just a bit less than the costs thus taking a big chunk of those tax cuts as profits, too, ontop of the earlier price increase already accounting for their costs. When oil price goes down again the tax reduction runs out and the difference is directly transfered to the consumers for another end user/profit increase.

                    The obvious result: oil and gas companies for the last few years constantly break their own records for profit margins again and again. So yeah, they understand demand and supply: there is demand so they can take any amount of money independent of supply unless laws/goverments reign them in. Which the corrupt German one won’t do.

                    Instead they increase red-tape for renewables and more importantly storage and build more gas power plants.

                    (Fun fact: Guess who is actively criticising the government’s idiotic gas plans that are destined to increase energy costs even more: the industry suffering from it. Guess who spend years criticising the government’s flip-flopping on the EV transition: the car industry. Yet they still happen, because the corrupt government is not working for the people, the economy or the country but for their rich fossil fuel donors. Those indeed are very happy with their constantly increasing profits and insane plans to fortify gas and oil dependence for decades.)

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                    7 days ago

                    The energy economics are more complex than just supply and demand. Pricing has additional conditions.

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                  8 days ago

                  Lol Germany’s industry is no longer competitive on the world stage because of idiot policies. As your people go poorer and your country continues to deteriorate (like USA Midwest) you will them realize loser policies create loser socioeconomic conditions.

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            8 days ago

            Had you posted the full headline you’d have seen that this is about cost cutting. There’s no energy crisis here.