The head of the Signal app has criticized plans in the EU to allow messengers to have backdoors to enable automatic searches for criminal content. Signal is considered one of the most secure messengers.
What percentage of them do you think has the capacity and capability to use ADB?
All of them: they can follow procedures, plug a cable, and push buttons if they really want to.
Most won’t bother: capacity isn’t willpower.
it’s a pain in the arse
That’s the idea: welcome to an effective deterrent.
even I’m not going to do it to install a trusted open source app
Good, then it’ll deter as designed.
the only reason
Nah, the use cases are legitimate:
It will actually deter installation of malicious software once it’s been identified & flagged that way in their system.
It also verifies install packages haven’t been tampered (possibly maliciously) from their original releases.
Malicious software on devices connected to everything including highly sensitive information poses high-cost risks that you & casual users overlook because muh inconvenience 😭.
If casual users can’t bother with a straightforward procedure as you say, then how prepared are they to handle the real challenges of a successful attack?
From a security perspective, it makes sense for OS designers to choose to limit exposure to that threat to power users who can be expected to at least have a better idea of what they’re getting themselves into.
Google employee confirmed. Absolute trash reasoning verging on trolling it’s so ridiculous. Wild that you arguing so vehemently in favour of reduced access to use your hardware the way you want.
All of them
Laughable. You’ve obviously never worked in any kind of customer support role.
Most people are going to melt at the steps necessary to use adb.
capacity isn’t willpower.
By capacity I meant access to hardware. There are so many people in poorer countries out there that don’t have a laptop, permission to start using one for installing adb on it but also have an android phone.
welcome to an effective deterrent.
I don’t want an effective deterrent that effectively kills fdroid and the like. That’s the whole point. I’ve favoured android because it’s more open. The talking points in favour of it pale in comparison to the loss of freedom.
If casual users can’t bother with a straightforward procedure
Honestly just jog on. Please. It is not a straightforward procedure and my threat model shouldn’t need to include the steps you outline. There are already barriers in place that put off casual users.
The fact that you want people to stop installing open source apps that they trust is honestly deranged. Deranged.
All of them: they can follow procedures, plug a cable, and push buttons if they really want to. Most won’t bother: capacity isn’t willpower.
That’s the idea: welcome to an effective deterrent.
Good, then it’ll deter as designed.
Nah, the use cases are legitimate:
Malicious software on devices connected to everything including highly sensitive information poses high-cost risks that you & casual users overlook because muh inconvenience 😭. If casual users can’t bother with a straightforward procedure as you say, then how prepared are they to handle the real challenges of a successful attack?
From a security perspective, it makes sense for OS designers to choose to limit exposure to that threat to power users who can be expected to at least have a better idea of what they’re getting themselves into.
Google employee confirmed. Absolute trash reasoning verging on trolling it’s so ridiculous. Wild that you arguing so vehemently in favour of reduced access to use your hardware the way you want.
Laughable. You’ve obviously never worked in any kind of customer support role.
Most people are going to melt at the steps necessary to use adb.
By capacity I meant access to hardware. There are so many people in poorer countries out there that don’t have a laptop, permission to start using one for installing adb on it but also have an android phone.
I don’t want an effective deterrent that effectively kills fdroid and the like. That’s the whole point. I’ve favoured android because it’s more open. The talking points in favour of it pale in comparison to the loss of freedom.
Honestly just jog on. Please. It is not a straightforward procedure and my threat model shouldn’t need to include the steps you outline. There are already barriers in place that put off casual users.
The fact that you want people to stop installing open source apps that they trust is honestly deranged. Deranged.