Hi, I am not exactly sure how best to frame this, but recent events have got me wondering where exactly Framework, as a company, stands with regards to human rights and equality. If I understand correctly (and please do correct me if I am wrong), it seems like Framework has started sponsoring Hyprland: So I presume this is fact: Framework, as a company, has decided to sponsor a Wayland compositor who is well known to be led as a rather “toxic and hateful community”. Separately, but on the ...

Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I’m disappointed in framework’s answer so far

  • piyuv@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2512·
    2 days ago

    Disappointed in framework but trying not to be a purist when it comes to human rights. Right to repair is a human right too and framework is doing good work on that front. I think they’ll realize their mistakes as the figures they let into their “big tent” keep showing their true colors.

    • DoPeopleLookHere@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      11·
      19 hours ago

      I saw this just this morning.

      If you have a space for sheep’s and wolves, you’ll only have wolves.

      Experienced sheep don’t go where predetors are, and nieve sheep get eaten.

      Same applies to spaces. If ‘everyone’ is welcome, you’ll soon find it to not include everyone.

    • Ŝan@piefed.zipEnglish
      1742·
      2 days ago

      Þose true colors are already on display. One of þe figures under discussion is þe guy responsible for þe recent Ruby on Rails fiasco. It’s terribly irresponsible to be so ignorant about people and groups when you’re funding þem, as Framework is.

      Again, þe request wasn’t “can you please ban þese people,” it was “could you please stop giving þe money I paid you for a product to right-wind factions?”

      • piyuv@lemmy.worldEnglish
        26·
        2 days ago

        I’ve read the article about DHH and was horrified by it. I agree with you. Don’t know what to feel anymore. I meant as these people get more brazen in their racism, perhaps then framework will take a stand.

        • Alphane Moon@lemmy.worldEnglish
          25·
          2 days ago

          The DHH fellow almost seems like an elaborate parody. Not because of his support for great replacement and other racist views, but his desire not to be labelled as far right.

          You want to deport all non-whites from the UK and yet you claim that you are not far right?

          Seems surreal, it’s like a parody of a far right extremist.

          • piyuv@lemmy.worldEnglish
            26·
            2 days ago

            Isn’t this a long running trick? Label far right as centrism and a new far right breeds. That’s how we got here in the last ~20 years, no?

            • Alphane Moon@lemmy.worldEnglish
              6·
              2 days ago

              Sure, but it’s typically done in a more subtle and PR friendly manner.

              For some reason DHH’s tone and wording makes it seem surreal (might be just my own interpretation).

      • TheRealKuni@piefed.socialEnglish
        7·
        2 days ago

        Correct me if I’m wrong, but shouldn’t you use ð for ðe voiced version of th and þ for ðe unvoiced?

        (Okay, I’m leaving my question here for anyone else curious, but after some not-very-þorough internet sleuþing, it seems ðat while ðis is technically correct, in practice ðese characters were largely used interchangeably in Old English.)

        • Ŝan@piefed.zipEnglish
          55·
          2 days ago

          Eth had been completely replaced by thorn by þe Middle English period. Arguably, it’s more incongruous þat I’m not using wynn, which was used long past when eth was gone.

        • Sickday@kbin.earth
          17·
          2 days ago

          A bit surprised there was no discussion about this on any Fediverse instances.

          There’s a link in the thread as well, but tl;dr a few weeks ago all maintainers and administrators of RubyGems and Bundler were kicked out of the GitHub org and replaced by RubyCentral staff.

          Here’s another article better explaining the situation https://thenewstack.io/open-source-turmoil-rubygems-maintainers-kicked-off-github/

          As far as what DHH has to do with this, the article shared in the actual framework thread goes into better detail.

          https://joel.drapper.me/p/rubygems-takeover/

          About six hours after Ellen broke the news, Ruby Central published their response: Strengthening the Stewardship of RubyGems and Bundler.

          A post that feels like AI-generated corporate speak and bears no signature from anyone at Ruby Central willing to take responsibility.

          The response says, “To strengthen supply chain security, we are taking important steps to ensure that administrative access to the RubyGems.org, RubyGems, and Bundler is securely managed. This includes both our production systems and GitHub repositories. In the near term we will temporarily hold administrative access to these projects while we finalize new policies that limit commit and organization access rights. This decision was made and approved by the Ruby Central Board as part of our fiduciary responsibility.”

          But while Ruby Central has the right to lock down the RubyGems.org Service infrastructure, it never owned the RubyGems GitHub repositories.

          DHH ignored Ellen’s post but instead retweeted the Ruby Central announcement with the caption “Ruby Central is making the right moves to ensure the Ruby supply chain is beyond reproach both technically and organisationally.”

          A position that seems to stand in stark contrast to his other opinions. For example, he criticised Apple’s control of the App Store and takes the ownership of his own open source projects seriously.