Ok, seriously, just use Linux. I know how it sounds, but I’d say a majority of people use a computer to use a web browser. Guess what? We browsers have always worked and been native with Linux.
Problem is, it’s not a passion for most people and they just want to buy something and get on the internet. While they exist, you can’t exactly go to Best buy and buy a new computer running Linux.
But really, if you have hardware that works well with it, it’s a dream.
Funny thing is, on my laptop there’s an issue with Linux and browsers. Any video or animation, even little animations, runs at like 3fps. This makes using a browser virtually impossible.
Everything else works well, but that just doesn’t make Linux an option for me right now. I tried a variety of browsers and distros. It’s really frustrating. It’s not even a bad laptop, Lenovo Legion 5 pro RTX3060.
I said in my previous comment an RTX3060 and an iGPU. I tried with the iGPU, without the iGPU, switching them, hybrid mode. Nvidia drivers, nouveau drivers, it’s always the same.
Been there, done that. I also went to the Lenovo Legion Linux discord server. All great people, but their advanced solutions didn’t work either. Even people with exactly the same model didn’t have this issue. I have no idea what it could be, maybe something hardware related.
Those seem like niche things to hold on to. A 5090 should work just fine under Linux, what feature do you use that isn’t supported? Also a 9070 XT is capable of doing ray tracing. You don’t always have to have the absolute most powerful card.
I don’t have an HDR monitor so can’t say how well it works in Linux, but you can survive without HDR. Is a better lighting contrast that big of a deal?
With an Nvidia GPU on Linux, you don’t get the Nvidia App or even the Nvidia Control Panel. That means no 3D Settings page, no RTX HDR, no Shadowplay, no game filters, no video upscaling in Firefox… All features that I paid money to have and use daily. None of it exists in Linux beyond wonky half-solutions.
It doesn’t mean you don’t get those things, it just means that you don’t use them via a control panel.
There are a few solutions for shadowplay that are all decent to excellent, rtx HDR I think is automatic in Proton? Not sure what you mean by game filters unless you’re talking about reshade, and I wasn’t aware there was a video upscaler in Firefox.
The AMD adrenaline software for adjusting settings and power profiles for AMD GPUs also does not work on Linux btw so it’s not like it’s only Nvidia that’s the problem.
Linux has HDR support now, and there are slightly more configuration options for it than in Windows under KDE Plasma. These are very recent developments.
I’ve already tried Linux with an Nvidia GPU. The driver is bare bones. You don’t get the Nvidia App or even the Nvidia Control Panel. That means no 3D Settings page, no RTX HDR, no Shadowplay, no game filters, no video upscaling in Firefox… All features that I paid money to have and use daily.
Point I’m making is that I didn’t spend a bunch of money on a 4090, onlyto not be able to fully utilize every feature it has to offer.
This is objectively untrue. I’ve seen it for myself.
You get a bare bones driver and nothing else. That means no 3D Settings page, no RTX HDR, no Shadowplay, no game filters, no video upscaling in Firefox… All features that I paid money to have and use daily.
I didn’t spend a bunch of money on a 4090, only to not be able to fully utilize every feature it has to offer.
Normally I would agree, but Nvidia’s tools have come a long way since the GeForce Experience days (goodbye and good riddance to that garbage app).
The features in the Nvidia App are all useful things that I like and enjoy. I’m sorry but I just cannot go without the Nvidia App. It’s too fucking good.
No, I don’t want Linux or any other OS. I perfectly know my way around with Windows and so many of my regular tasks depend on tools made for Windows. I have used Linux desktop in the past and have many friends and co-workers who use it as their main OS, but it’s just not for me.
Besides of course this recall stuff gets blown way out of proportion like every time Microsoft makes a bad move. All of my computers don’t even support recall and when they eventually do, I’ll just disable it in one of like four possible different ways.
I’m currently sticking to Windows 10 on my private machines but already on 11 on my work computer and it’s fine with an alternative start menu. I’m also looking forward to the better HDR features on 11.
Fair enough, I use 10 and 11 at work and hate it … I used to like 7, using the control panel, search, default paths and stuff seemed a lot more intuitive.
That’s why I stick with Linux at home, it feels a lot more like Windows used to, lol
Yeah the control panel revisions took some getting used to, but now I think it’s not so bad. I know where to find everything but I can see how it’s frustrating for others. What’s most important to me is that I have local admin rights on my work PC and can customize it to my liking. Many companies lock their devices down heavily, and I don’t want to deal with that.
Indeed, I don’t have admin rights for anything outside of IP address changes at work.
I just thought of another bug bear, start menu lag on mouse clicks is a very odd problem, I don’t remember anything like that, even on the first release of Windows 95 which I ran on a laptop with 25MHz and 8 Mb of ram.
Ok, seriously, just use Linux. I know how it sounds, but I’d say a majority of people use a computer to use a web browser. Guess what? We browsers have always worked and been native with Linux.
Problem is, it’s not a passion for most people and they just want to buy something and get on the internet. While they exist, you can’t exactly go to Best buy and buy a new computer running Linux.
But really, if you have hardware that works well with it, it’s a dream.
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Funny thing is, on my laptop there’s an issue with Linux and browsers. Any video or animation, even little animations, runs at like 3fps. This makes using a browser virtually impossible.
Everything else works well, but that just doesn’t make Linux an option for me right now. I tried a variety of browsers and distros. It’s really frustrating. It’s not even a bad laptop, Lenovo Legion 5 pro RTX3060.
What GPU does your laptop have?
I said in my previous comment an RTX3060 and an iGPU. I tried with the iGPU, without the iGPU, switching them, hybrid mode. Nvidia drivers, nouveau drivers, it’s always the same.
I wrote a post on it some time ago: https://feddit.nl/post/34127250
Sorry, I had just woken up so I missed it 😓. I would suggest asking this in your distro’s forum if you still have Linux installed on that laptop.
Been there, done that. I also went to the Lenovo Legion Linux discord server. All great people, but their advanced solutions didn’t work either. Even people with exactly the same model didn’t have this issue. I have no idea what it could be, maybe something hardware related.
I will when either Nvidia supports it fully, or AMD releases a GPU that can keep up in the ray tracing department.
Also, HDR support in Linux needs to get a lot better. Like an order of magnitude better. Then and only then will I switch.
Those seem like niche things to hold on to. A 5090 should work just fine under Linux, what feature do you use that isn’t supported? Also a 9070 XT is capable of doing ray tracing. You don’t always have to have the absolute most powerful card.
I don’t have an HDR monitor so can’t say how well it works in Linux, but you can survive without HDR. Is a better lighting contrast that big of a deal?
With an Nvidia GPU on Linux, you don’t get the Nvidia App or even the Nvidia Control Panel. That means no 3D Settings page, no RTX HDR, no Shadowplay, no game filters, no video upscaling in Firefox… All features that I paid money to have and use daily. None of it exists in Linux beyond wonky half-solutions.
It doesn’t mean you don’t get those things, it just means that you don’t use them via a control panel.
There are a few solutions for shadowplay that are all decent to excellent, rtx HDR I think is automatic in Proton? Not sure what you mean by game filters unless you’re talking about reshade, and I wasn’t aware there was a video upscaler in Firefox.
Maybe bring that up at Nvidia. The Linux Community is not obligated to deliver you your needed functions for free :)
Other solution: don’t pay for it. Don’t buy Nvidia because they don’t support Linux.
The AMD adrenaline software for adjusting settings and power profiles for AMD GPUs also does not work on Linux btw so it’s not like it’s only Nvidia that’s the problem.
Linux has HDR support now, and there are slightly more configuration options for it than in Windows under KDE Plasma. These are very recent developments.
I’m run Nvidia since before I started using Linux. Sometimes waking from sleep doesn’t work, other than that I have zero issues. Ymmv of course.
I’ve already tried Linux with an Nvidia GPU. The driver is bare bones. You don’t get the Nvidia App or even the Nvidia Control Panel. That means no 3D Settings page, no RTX HDR, no Shadowplay, no game filters, no video upscaling in Firefox… All features that I paid money to have and use daily.
Point I’m making is that I didn’t spend a bunch of money on a 4090, onlyto not be able to fully utilize every feature it has to offer.
Ya fair, I just play stock settings usually and don’t care about ray tracing of HDR. That’s why I can’t justify upgrading from a 2070s
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This is objectively untrue. I’ve seen it for myself.
You get a bare bones driver and nothing else. That means no 3D Settings page, no RTX HDR, no Shadowplay, no game filters, no video upscaling in Firefox… All features that I paid money to have and use daily.
I didn’t spend a bunch of money on a 4090, only to not be able to fully utilize every feature it has to offer.
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Normally I would agree, but Nvidia’s tools have come a long way since the GeForce Experience days (goodbye and good riddance to that garbage app).
The features in the Nvidia App are all useful things that I like and enjoy. I’m sorry but I just cannot go without the Nvidia App. It’s too fucking good.
No, I don’t want Linux or any other OS. I perfectly know my way around with Windows and so many of my regular tasks depend on tools made for Windows. I have used Linux desktop in the past and have many friends and co-workers who use it as their main OS, but it’s just not for me.
Besides of course this recall stuff gets blown way out of proportion like every time Microsoft makes a bad move. All of my computers don’t even support recall and when they eventually do, I’ll just disable it in one of like four possible different ways.
Ok but the OP is taking about people who just use their computer for browsing the internet, so how is this relevant?
I just wanted to note that the 2nd paragraph made me downvote, the first one iust made me roll my eyes
What’s been your favourite version of Windows?
I’m currently sticking to Windows 10 on my private machines but already on 11 on my work computer and it’s fine with an alternative start menu. I’m also looking forward to the better HDR features on 11.
Fair enough, I use 10 and 11 at work and hate it … I used to like 7, using the control panel, search, default paths and stuff seemed a lot more intuitive.
That’s why I stick with Linux at home, it feels a lot more like Windows used to, lol
Yeah the control panel revisions took some getting used to, but now I think it’s not so bad. I know where to find everything but I can see how it’s frustrating for others. What’s most important to me is that I have local admin rights on my work PC and can customize it to my liking. Many companies lock their devices down heavily, and I don’t want to deal with that.
Indeed, I don’t have admin rights for anything outside of IP address changes at work.
I just thought of another bug bear, start menu lag on mouse clicks is a very odd problem, I don’t remember anything like that, even on the first release of Windows 95 which I ran on a laptop with 25MHz and 8 Mb of ram.
I’ve heard about that but haven’t noticed it myself. It does sound annoying.
Yup, and it’s on what was a mid-line laptop from 3 years ago. Only just started recently.
At home I use a thinkpad that I got 2nd hand 10 years back, and it feels like warp speed by comparison.
It’s not JUST about recall, but whatever.