Yeah I’m not actually against marvel quips, though I definitely feel they became detrimental to the writing style of their films over time. When I complain about it, I’m really complaining about interruptions where they aren’t warranted and don’t contribute to the narrative.
A good quip isn’t just funny- it can contribute to audience understanding, help with pacing, and fits naturally into the narrative. A bad quip interrupts the narrative for no reason other than to interrupt. I don’t really have a good example for this, it’s more of a ‘know it when you see it’ situation. It was definitely better in the early marvel films.
As much as I love witty characters like Spider-Man, not everyone needs to be comic relief and sometimes it just doesn’t jibe with the story being told.
Oh, I think you are saying that you dislike non-sequitur pop culture references, but you would appreciate a witty remark or reference if it jived with the flow of the topic.
As far as jibes go, I was unaware that it is considered an alternate spelling of gibe. I guess you could be insulted by the comments, but they would have to be intentionally insulting.
Yeah, disliking non-sequiturs inserted for their own sake is a good summary of my point.
I actually hadn’t seen gibe before, but a quick search suggests it means something pretty different. Per Grammarly:
Gibe generally means to make mocking or insulting remarks, used predominantly as a verb. On the other hand, jibe can either refer to a sailing maneuver… or mean that something is in agreement, often seen as ‘jibe with’.
So, I pulled my definition from here; however, I did not read down far enough to see the alternate definition!
What I found looking deeper is this. The article links here, saying jibe (to fit in/be in harmony) is the older term (used since at least 1813) and jive is only used that way in the past 80 years.
So, while the definitions now jibe together, it is still some jive. So, no gibe given, I was clearly mistaken!
Yeah I’m not actually against marvel quips, though I definitely feel they became detrimental to the writing style of their films over time. When I complain about it, I’m really complaining about interruptions where they aren’t warranted and don’t contribute to the narrative.
A good quip isn’t just funny- it can contribute to audience understanding, help with pacing, and fits naturally into the narrative. A bad quip interrupts the narrative for no reason other than to interrupt. I don’t really have a good example for this, it’s more of a ‘know it when you see it’ situation. It was definitely better in the early marvel films.
As much as I love witty characters like Spider-Man, not everyone needs to be comic relief and sometimes it just doesn’t jibe with the story being told.
Oh, I think you are saying that you dislike non-sequitur pop culture references, but you would appreciate a witty remark or reference if it jived with the flow of the topic.
As far as jibes go, I was unaware that it is considered an alternate spelling of gibe. I guess you could be insulted by the comments, but they would have to be intentionally insulting.
Yeah, disliking non-sequiturs inserted for their own sake is a good summary of my point.
I actually hadn’t seen gibe before, but a quick search suggests it means something pretty different. Per Grammarly:
Gibe generally means to make mocking or insulting remarks, used predominantly as a verb. On the other hand, jibe can either refer to a sailing maneuver… or mean that something is in agreement, often seen as ‘jibe with’.
Whoa, those two definitions of jibe don’t jive!
So, I pulled my definition from here; however, I did not read down far enough to see the alternate definition!
What I found looking deeper is this. The article links here, saying jibe (to fit in/be in harmony) is the older term (used since at least 1813) and jive is only used that way in the past 80 years.
So, while the definitions now jibe together, it is still some jive. So, no gibe given, I was clearly mistaken!