Well, they only got 20% of the guns that time, and the vast majority of them were .22 “pea rifles” and shotguns. In fact only 204 automatic weapons were turned in (for a rate of 1 in 1,000). Also they had about 3.2 million registered firearms before the ban, which reduced to about 2.2 million, only to now be back around 3.2 million, but with a lower % of Aussies owning them.
Also violence was already on the downswing before the buyback, both firearm and non-firearm homicides generally lowered from around '79 on, though while firearm suicides decreased, non-firearm suicides increased.
Don’t get me wrong I’m sure the bans effected the rates a little, but not much and they were already decreasing over a decade earlier. It seems that AUS is just not that murderous, and that those who would have shot themselves seem to have just found another way.
That’s a childish response. It’s very hard to change anything at the societal level by 20% and any program that does so is among the most successful of all time.
If one isn’t into guns, it’s hard to parse what you’re looking at it. You’re looking at mostly garbage. Those are grandpa’s guns, which may be great!, and I’d bet few actually function. Can’t get a new firing pin or funky spring for that 70-yo shotgun? Turn it in, get paid!
Anyway, over on /r/liberalgunowners, we’d get a hearty chuckle out of the buy backs and police pics.
Or, look at it this way: Almost every gun pictured is a long gun of some sort. In America, long guns, including AR-15s, are used in ~4% of gun deaths (including suicides, weirdly enough). It’s the pistols people kill with. See any pistols?
I don’t know why you act like taking old, crappy guns out of circulation isn’t meaningful. Just because assault rifles are involved in the biggest and most horrific shootings doesn’t mean that no harm is done with more mundane weapons. It seems plausible to me that old shitty guns are the very ones that kids find lying about the garage, or that get sold under the table to who knows what criminal, or that misfire and injure someone during legit usage.
They’ve done this before and it was hugely successful.
Well, they only got 20% of the guns that time, and the vast majority of them were .22 “pea rifles” and shotguns. In fact only 204 automatic weapons were turned in (for a rate of 1 in 1,000). Also they had about 3.2 million registered firearms before the ban, which reduced to about 2.2 million, only to now be back around 3.2 million, but with a lower % of Aussies owning them.
Also violence was already on the downswing before the buyback, both firearm and non-firearm homicides generally lowered from around '79 on, though while firearm suicides decreased, non-firearm suicides increased.
Don’t get me wrong I’m sure the bans effected the rates a little, but not much and they were already decreasing over a decade earlier. It seems that AUS is just not that murderous, and that those who would have shot themselves seem to have just found another way.
20% is hugely successful.
1/5th success.
That’s a childish response. It’s very hard to change anything at the societal level by 20% and any program that does so is among the most successful of all time.
Sorry, DDG says no, and I’m gonna have to agree with it here. 20% is 20%, that’s an 80% failure rate, hardly “hugely successful.”
We’re just gonna have to 20% agree to disagree.
Like I said, childish. And you just used a fucking AI reply as evidence? Call me when you’ve ever had to accomplish something in this world.
Call me when you accomplish at least half of something, 20%er.
No, it was not. Gun buybacks are never successful.
Look at this bullshit. Here’s a wider angle.
It’s a joke, always is. People turn in their crappy, broken, rusty guns, get paid and the state is like, “Look how great this is!”
Wish they’d do a buyback in my state. Got a couple of busted POS guns I’d love to get paid for.
EDIT: Apparently lemmy doesn’t believe me. Let’s break down the first pic where we can see some detail. Making educated guesses here. Left to right:
Not enough detail to guess on the last couple. One other thought, you can’t get ammo for much of that old garbage.
What a haul of killing machines!
Not sure what the point of the pics is. Looks like a huge pile of killing devices being disposed of…
Cuz they’re not semi-automatic?
If one isn’t into guns, it’s hard to parse what you’re looking at it. You’re looking at mostly garbage. Those are grandpa’s guns, which may be great!, and I’d bet few actually function. Can’t get a new firing pin or funky spring for that 70-yo shotgun? Turn it in, get paid!
EDIT: See my edited breakdown on that first pic: https://old.lemmy.world/comment/21103440
Anyway, over on /r/liberalgunowners, we’d get a hearty chuckle out of the buy backs and police pics.
Or, look at it this way: Almost every gun pictured is a long gun of some sort. In America, long guns, including AR-15s, are used in ~4% of gun deaths (including suicides, weirdly enough). It’s the pistols people kill with. See any pistols?
I don’t know why you act like taking old, crappy guns out of circulation isn’t meaningful. Just because assault rifles are involved in the biggest and most horrific shootings doesn’t mean that no harm is done with more mundane weapons. It seems plausible to me that old shitty guns are the very ones that kids find lying about the garage, or that get sold under the table to who knows what criminal, or that misfire and injure someone during legit usage.