• TheRealKuni@piefed.social
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    1 day ago

    but at least short term studies, while being inconclusive, show that vaping is just as damaging as smoking

    Citation needed. Every study I’ve seen, with the exception of the ones where they were burning wicks, has shown the opposite. Vegetable glycerin and propylene glycol are far less damaging than burnt plant matter.

    Most smokers I know startet smoking more when they switched to vapes.

    Anecdotal, and I can counter with my own. When I vaped, the vast majority of people I knew who did were former smokers. I don’t know that I’ve ever met someone who went the other direction. I could see that happening among younger people, but switching from vaping to smoking is one of the most braindead things a person could do.

    Then there is the whole issue with one time vapes and batteries in landfills

    So ban single-use vapes, or come up with a core-charge recycling scheme like we do with lead-acid batteries. Lithium batteries are recyclable.

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      5 hours ago

      I could see that happening among younger people, but switching from vaping to smoking is one of the most braindead things a person could do.

      Why would anyone switch from one addictive nicotine delivery device to another? Why do you think tobabacco companies own vape companies or Zym? To keep you sucking the nicotine while you pay.

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        5 hours ago

        Obviously. So if you do vape, buy your liquid from a local shop and don’t use disposables.

        Vaping is a safer delivery system than smoking. Nicotene addiction is bad, but banning the safer delivery system is idiotic.

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            4 hours ago

            100%.

            I made my own liquid for a couple years. Made it extremely really easy to taper my nicotine amount and quit.

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              3 hours ago

              If I were trying to quit I would too (and will if that time comes), I just wanted to switch from a pack and a half a day to vaping lol.

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                3 hours ago

                Totally understand. I quit in early 2020, when I heard reports from other people who vaped that, when they got COVID, dealing with nicotine withdrawal at the same time as COVID was awful. I decided it was finally time to kick the habit just in case.

                Edit: this also meant my life insurance payments went down. 🤣

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                  3 hours ago

                  …I just vaped with covid hahaha. Fuck it we ball.

                  Iirc I did use zyns sometimes too if need be, I always keep a few around for “emergencies” anyway (like planes or whatever, or for a while my boss would call on the radio a code that basically meant “no vaping our landlord is here” and so I’d pop one in for the hour or two he’d be bugging us).

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      11 hours ago

      I’ve read stories of certain flavors having chemicals that aren’t good to be vaping as well. That’s not a vaping issue though, that’s a regulation issue about what can be in the vape liquid. It’s is or at least was the wild wild west on what was being put in them.