• philpo@feddit.org
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    17 hours ago

    I would agree if they would use their existing laws sufficiently and not make themselves absolute fools by ignoring a upcoming ukraine war,almost getting their own boss getting captured by the Ruzzkies.

    I wish I was joking.

  • birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 day ago

    Yeah sure.

    This kind of stuff has been misused by the NSA and CIA too, to expand their power so that during times of wannabe dictators, the State already had all means to let them become dictators. Surveillance states, no thanks!

    The only thing we need is to crush the far right. And that is indeed through crushing Russia and its mafia desinformation network, as well as reinstating democracy ASAP in the USA. The EU also needs to combat its own internal far right rapidly.

    First the EU must cure itself, then it must cure the US, and then Russia.

  • plyth@feddit.org
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    22 hours ago

    Like the freedom to not sufficiently secure the building site of the new headquarter? Or like figuring out if Iraq has weapons of mass destruction?

    Why should the BND do the job and not some other agency?

  • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Yeah, let’s let the secret police commit more crimes with impunity. Then all our spies can be coopted for pedophile protection and facilitating child-sex-trafficking under the grounds of “national security”.

    Secret Police are the greatest attack vector of any country for the destruction of civil rights and implementation of dictatorship. The ultimate goal should be zero secret police, especially using mass surveillance or spying on its own citizens.

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      19 hours ago

      I agree with the sentiment but this isn‘t really how the BND works. It‘s more like the German NSA. They have barely any real executive power and rely on other institutions or even nations to act on the information they gather. Secret services in countries like the USA, UK or even France have much greater executive powers such as a license to kill.

      I see the actual Police, their powers and use of surveillance systems like Palantyr as much more problematic, personally. Or the fact that we have a de facto illegal right radical party sitting in the parliament and other parties don‘t even think about applying mechanisms to protect our democracy and freedoms from them. It looks like our secret services in Germany are at least doing their job. I wish I could say the same about politicians.