The creator of Nearby Glasses made the app after reading 404 Media’s coverage of how people are using Meta’s Ray-Bans smartglasses to film people without their knowledge or consent. “I consider it to be a tiny part of resistance against surveillance tech.”

more at: @feed@404media.co

https://tech.lgbt/@yjeanrenaud/116122129025921096

  • rumba@lemmy.zip
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    4 days ago

    Now if they can just notify you that some asshole is recording you on their cell phone instead of reading reddit. probably 0.001% of people out there stalking are using smart glasses.

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      4 days ago

      Now if they can just notify you that some asshole is recording you on their cell phone instead of reading reddit.

      If you’re out in public, always assume you’re on someone’s camera. That isn’t really new either.

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        3 days ago

        I’ve never seen an online discussion about privacy without some version of this comment. Never gets old. Is there an Android keyboard with an apathy button that I’m unaware of?

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          Apathy? Not at all. Its simply a matter of established law, in the USA anyway. I can’t speak to the legal systems of the other 140+ countries on planet Earth.

          Can you cite a law in the USA or in your own country where you have a right to privacy making photographing you simply standing in a public park an illegal act perpetrated by another person or government entity?

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              3 days ago

              Forgive the machine translation to English, but reading that shows the a very similar exception to privacy protection we have here in the USA

              Here’s one example:

              "There are exceptions to events (demonstrations, general meetings, cultural events, etc.). Here, participants must expect to be photographed. This is about what is happening and not about the person itself. "

              Most of the wiki article is talking specifically about copyright, which isn’t the scope of what we’re talking about. Publication of taken images is a different topic.

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                There’s a difference between taking a picture of a person and taking a picture of scenery or event with a person in it in Germany.

                It’s a subtle but significant difference. And relevant when talking about do you have to expect for your picture to be taken. You may not care when your in the background or not identifiable but at the same time care when someone knows you and takes photography of you, or takes photos of you where you’re the main focus of the image.

                There’s a distinction between whether they will be published or are for private use too.

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                  With your comments I found additional German legal guidance that mostly matches what you said. It appears that Germany does indeed have a portion of privacy from someone intentionally walking up to you and taking your picture. I don’t think this invalidates my original point because it doesn’t appear that expectation of privacy extends to installed surveillance cameras in public.

                  However, I appreciate having a better understanding of German law. Thank you.

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                    Regarding security cameras, you can’t point your private security camera of your property. If you put it above your entrance, you can’t point it to record the entire street.

                    Afaik anyway.

                    Parking spaces or business must visibly disclose that there’s cameras, at least where they would not be generally expected. I’m not too sure about the specifics there though.

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      Hmm… I wonder if there’s any solid way to detect a camera lens being in active focus or use. This app works by parsing Bluetooth traffic, but a person locally recording on their phone wouldn’t have such a trail. Is there any reliable way to detect a camera lens reading exposed light?

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        Presumably the sensor’s data lines would be detectable, but probably more like laboratory conditions.

        Perhaps a physical shutter would be a good happy medium. Put 'em on the damn cell phones, too.

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          Shoot, I should 3d print one for mine. I don’t use my camera for much anyway, and better protection from impacts would be nice.

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          Yeah, but the issue is intent and actual usage. I don’t want to fuck up my neck by always looking down at a 30deg angle, so I do try to view things on my phone more level with my face. I avoid pointing it directly at people, but I can’t change how others would interpret that.