And they’re already kissing Trump’s ass

  • Snapz@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Spreading for awareness, I’ve been posting this in relevant threads for a week - This is all theater.

    trump is going to “save” tik tok after starting the initial push to ban it (for the wrong reasons) to pretend he did something for you. Worst part is that all of the no/low info voters and non voters will eat it up.

    It’s the equivalent of a person pushing you into the middle of the street and at the very last second, that same person tells the drivers to all stop. “Wow, I owe you my life!”

    And now, this adds two layers:

    1. You think trump and the Supreme Court are colluding? now they get to say, nah uh!!! Even though again, this is all convoluted.

    2. trump gets to look “stronger” than the “highest court in the land” to help delude the next generation of low info tiktok folks.

    P.s. The Chinese “protest” apps are going to mine the FUCK out of these millions of phones in the brief window they have them. Also, when the kids inevitably move back to tiktok, majority of them will leave these other apps installed on their phones, dormant and collecting in the background.

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      Why does Trump need to pretend to do something for you?

      Trump has your support no matter what. He will rape children but you’ll line up to vote for him.

      With that said he’s already in office. Your opinion is meaningless to him. He already got what he needed from you.

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        Stop trying to find reason in a situation devoid of reason. You’re clinging to that for personal comfort, if you feel like you can wrap it with a bow, you feel in control of it. You’re not.

        He’s a broken narcissist and a psychopath. His dad didn’t love him and told him so. He’ll spend every worthless day of his life trying to get his dead dad to say “I was wrong about you”, and of course, his dad is dead so that won’t happen (wouldn’t have anyway, as that guy was likely an even bigger piece of shit, just not born with money like trump was so didn’t reach the same heights).

        So ask yourself why you don’t realize the above. If there’s an end to this presidency, or if say he gets diagnosed with a terminal disease, there’s a non-zero chance he launches all of the nukes with the hope of a worldwide nuclear holocaust - because at the end of the day, if his life was ending, and you told trump he could press a button and be sure that nobody was laughing at him after death, posthumously convicting him of crimes or just pissing on his grave, he’d kill every single person on the chance.

        A stranger’s opinion is meaningless to him? Brother, it’s fucking everything to him.

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    2 months ago

    I’m starting to think of Trump as one of those old school firefighters that would set fires and then swoop in to put the fire out lol.

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      He was one of the first people saying to ban it in 2020. To me it’s more like he is easily swayed with lobbying so it ends up looking like he is a pioneer on pushing new policy when in actuality he is the first person people go to when they need to bribe a politician.

    • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world
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      Except it doesn’t have the capability to put out fires, so it just starts them, then declares having put them out and leaves them burning

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      Yeah, but the ban passed with overwhelming bipartisan support, randomly jammed inside of the global military spending package including funding the Ukrainian war effort and the genocide in Gaza (which is a must-support bill for Democrats and Republicans alike I guess).

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      The entirety of global capitalism is lining up to bend the knee and gargle fascist balls.

      This is what leftists have been warning forever. Capitalism wants the monopolies, bailouts — the political, financial and military backing, etc — that state-capitalist dictatorships provide. Democratically elected governments, acting in the interests of the people, are really the only threat to the corporate oligarchies wealth and power.

      All of the wests “enemies” are equally supportive of fascism, because state-capitalist dictators are easier to influence (bribe).

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    Tik Tok removed platform access from their US userbase voluntarily.

    This was their choice.

    The law is literally not even being enforced.

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      Bytedance’s long-term hope is naturally to be able to continuing operating everywhere without violating any laws. Right? Therefore, their strategy is to stay as compliant as possible with various national laws (within reason), right? Therefore they have to take a conservative reading of the bill (PAFACA). So let’s look at the text of the bill:

      https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/7521/text

      (1) PROHIBITION OF FOREIGN ADVERSARY CONTROLLED APPLICATIONS.—It shall be unlawful for an entity to distribute, maintain, or update (or enable the distribution, maintenance, or updating of) a foreign adversary controlled application by carrying out, within the land or maritime borders of the United States, any of the following: […]

      Now, the actual distribution of TikTok is done by a U.S. corp, incorporated in California and Delaware. That corp has to stay compliant with these laws. Therefore, to maintain or update or enable the distribution of an app as defined in this bill, is legally punishable. Make sense? Particularly because the law mentions them by name, there is basically zero legal defense against it besides contesting its constitutionality. Which the horrifically corrupt Supreme Court upheld.

      So, probably the only way they felt comfortable resuming operations in the U.S. was with some kind of written agreement with the Trump admin - as of yet undisclosed.

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    Hey, look over here at the TikTok performative theatrics while we set up an oligarchy and rob you of your labor, your health, and your livelihood.

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        You see me complaining? I’ve never used TikTok, but the entire controversy around it is just wag-the-dog type distraction.

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    2 months ago

    Trump isn’t going to save them. He’s setting it up so one of us cronies will get it.

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    Surreal watching the rest of the internet freaking out. Meanwhile we are just sitting here on our own platforms doing our own things.

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        If TikTok has the power to “turn” youth into pro Palestine, they can also turn the youth pro China when China invades Taiwan.

        TikTok is in its expansion phase so it need to show its good will, but as soon as it is large enough, it will seek to do whatever make them the most money, like everyone else.

        Time and time again, big-tech controlled social media have intervened and will continue to intervene with public opinion, Meta, Xitter, TikTok, all in their own ways.

        If government decide to ban meta tomorrow, will you object as hard as banning tiktok?

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      Tell that to the millions of American small businesses that thrived on the app. Billions of tax revenue just vanished.

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        2 months ago

        I see this sentiment a lot but I don’t understand, which small business are doing all of their business exclusive on TikTok?

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          It’s less about only doing business on TikTok (there are many, however), but of all the other social media platforms, they get more engagement and sales from TikTok. (Ask yourself how many people are successfully selling their products and services on Lemmy, for example)

          It allows people to make chained response videos that also shows their work, as well as illuminating the personality and goals of the people who run the business.

          Connectivity between videos, with video responses to comments, is a powerful tool that TikTok does better, and it’s created a boon for many who are self employed.

          When 170 million Americans are using the platform, your level of exposure skyrockets.

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            Ask yourself how many people are successfully selling their products and services on Lemmy, for example

            I’m still stuck on asking how many people are successfully selling their products and services on TikTok.

            Like, what businesses are these and what are they selling? I wouldn’t imagine any of these social media platforms would be good for selling anything on. What’s an example of something I could go on TikTok and buy? I couldn’t imagine buying anything on any social media platform. I’ve never even seen anyone selling anything on any social media platform. How would I even do that if I wanted to?

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      Same! It is definitively unconstitutional and the us gov just pushed it through anyway (with even supreme court backing it up?!) Shit is crazy, and yet I see a lot of ‘no big loss’ type comments on it.

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        The SCOTUS decision was wild too, because it was a fucking 9-0 vote. The decision was unanimous. That’s a word that’s virtually never used to describe the SCOTUS or any kind of government vote. That unanimous decision made it perfectly clear that the government knows something we don’t, and that TikTok had them fucking terrified. My bet is on the genocide being much worse than even TikTok was showing, but TikTok was the only place you could see anything about it that didn’t have a massive “Israel is just helping them root out terrorists” spin.

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          That unanimous decision made it perfectly clear that the government knows something we don’t,

          Yeah, they know who pays their checks.

          My bet is on the genocide being much worse than even TikTok was showing,

          TikTok showed them incinerating an entire civilization. Not sure what you saw on there.

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    2 months ago

    Do you want to help a company that kisses Trump’s asshole or do you want to find the next free app that does the same thing as TikTok?

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      It’s more of an IG replacement than a TikTok replacement, but I’ve been kinda enjoying Pixelfed for the past week or so. It’s slow right now but that should change I imagine. The huge influx of users needs to be managed prior to optimization.