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    Something I’ve been thinking about: independent security projects often face pressure once corporate partnerships or funding enter the picture.

    Does GrapheneOS have any structural safeguards to ensure development priorities remain community-driven if hardware vendors become more involved?

    I’m not assuming there’s a problem — just interested in how projects like this avoid the “venture capital influence” problem that has affected other open source initiatives.

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    This genuinely so fucking smart from Motorola. Whomever is greenlighting this needs major kudos. We’re in a world where everyone wants to move away from US technology now and Google/Apple have monopolized the market. Motorola is making this move RIGHT when everywhere else is going “Is there literally nothing else we can use???” Good play esp as they need to up the specs on a new device to handle Graphene. I am looking forward to seeing what they come up with.

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        Unfortunately I was an idiot and uninstalled it when I was debloating my phone. I reinstalled moto actions, but the chop for flashlight doesn’t work unless it’s recently after a reboot (the turn for camera does though). Legitimately temped to make a backup then factory reset my phone to get it back.

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    Sounds like a good choice. Motorola has some very good budget phones and also good high-end phones. All running pretty clean versions of Android. I hope GrapheneOS will support both a flagship (or midrange) and a budget phone.

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      This is hilarious to me because other than a Samsung once (which made me go back) I had only moto… Until when I finally upgraded I wanted grapheneOS so pixel it was. Very happy about this.

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    It’s great to see a mainstream OEM work with GOS. I really hope Motorola will make phones with an actual headphone jack. That’s my no. 1 complaint about modern Pixel hardware.

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    MWC 2026 announcement likely, but devices may not ship until 2027

    Motorola is expected to formally announce the partnership [in March]. With MWC 2026 around the corner, the timing would make strategic sense.

    In case others were wondering, MWC 2026 is March 2-5. So, hopefully we’ll have official verification by the end of the week.

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    Haven’t had a Motorola in many years. Hopefully this works out well and we get a really nice piece of hardware that isn’t subject to the whims of Google.

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    According to the article, it was a little obvious that it’d be Motorola. To me it’s unexpected as I wasn’t following this all that closely. In any case, I’m personally pleased with the OEM choice. I’ll need to do some research on Motorola’s smartphones to prepare for the one/s that support Graphene.

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      They are basically stock android with minimal bloatware for a decent price. I’ve been using them for years. There’s the whole Lenovo scandal but its hard to find any decent phone I want nowadays so concessions need to be made somewhere

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        I have Edge 50 pro and I can tell you it is full of shit. Meta services, their own shitty services installing crap of their choice, adware they are reenabling as soon as you disable it… You’ll need adb to remove all that.

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        I’m mainly interested in the hardware, i.e., screen, camera, build quality, that kind of stuff. Though it’s good to know about the software, since Graphene will most likely be the same with its security features.

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      To me it’s unexpected as I wasn’t following this all that closely.

      I was following closely - checking for updates weekly or more, while struggling to be so much as content with my P9FP and trying to decide whether to upgrade to a P10FP (marginal upgrades on paper, but they really help out in the weakest areas).

      Still entirely unexpected to me, and even in my wildest hypotheticals, Motorola was not on my radar.

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    This is how a functioning capitalist system should work. Companies competing against each other for the benefit of the consumer.

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      The purpose of a system is what it does. Capitalism is functioning, it’s just that we’re not the beneficiaries.

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    If Motorola is willing to have a non-shitty operating system, why can’t they just put a non-shitty operating system on at the factory? All the stock Android OS I’ve seen lately, including Motorola’s, are crappy, have privacy settings disabled, and in many cases are full of unremovable malware.

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      Well, Google wants to continue their trend of spyware and people don’t give enough shits for anything to change. Same as with smartphone manufacturers removing features (SD cards, removable battery) and car manufacturers adding spyware and unnecessarily complexifying cars to make them less sustainable.

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      Because that was not their goal before, they were OK with the level of freedom their users had with stock Android. With the future restrictions Google will apply to Android they are probably looking to ship their new devices with Graphene to prevent that.

      I used Motorola’s products with Android for years and they one of the few in the market to still deliver something close to stock Android with only a couple of apps added for specific features (gestures to turn off flash lantern, etc) so I don’t where you got this malware thing going on with them. Unless you count everything Google as malware, in that case yes.

      Now I got a Samsung and it’s one of my worst experiences ever using their “One UI” and it is really riddled with crap because Samsung for some reason thinks they need to add their own versions of every app included in stock Android.

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        Unless you count everything Google as malware, in that case yes

        Yes, but more urgently, Facebook.