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General_Effort@lemmy.world to Europe@feddit.orgEnglish · 4 days ago

Building Tanks While the Ukrainians Master Drones

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Building Tanks While the Ukrainians Master Drones

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General_Effort@lemmy.world to Europe@feddit.orgEnglish · 4 days ago
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Ukrainian drones have made artillery and armored vehicles look obsolete. Why is the world still buying them?
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    Yes, because “tank” isn’t defined by armor plating or tracks, but by operational capabilities the weapon category offers.

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      https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer#Typen

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        Maybe the German definition is derived differently, but notice that in all the English links to military sources a careful distinction is made between “armored vehicles” and “tanks”.

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          The German definition is indeed different. That’s why the German Wikipedia article on “Panzer” (“armour”) links to “AFV” and not “Tank”.

          This is a quite common misconception present in the media, as e.g. at the beginning of the Ukraine war the back-then German secretary of defense stated: “The Gepard is no tank. The Gepard is for protecting infrastructure by shooting with it’s pipe [Rohr] into the air.” which a) is a bogus quote and b) did not translate well, as she used “Panzer” to translate “tank” and not “(Haupt-)Kampfpanzer ((main) battle tank)”.

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          Tanks have often been modified for special purposes. The most common is armoured recovery vehicles, used during combat for recovery or repair of battle-damaged and inoperable armoured fighting vehicles. Another common use is to provide armoured capability for combat engineers. These include tanks carrying large-calibre demolition guns, with flails or ploughs for mine-clearing, or flame tanks armed with flamethrowers. The tank occasionally may lose its weapons and the chassis alone may be used, as in bridge-laying tanks

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_classification#Specialist_tank

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            The chassis of tank models have been repurposed for other tasks, yes. That doesn’t make those armored vehicles tanks.

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              I mean, everyone but you classifies them as tanks, but ok.

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