• plyth@feddit.org
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      6 days ago

      Then help me out, please. How is Europe going to become independent?

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        5 days ago

        That takes a lot of initiatives and some time but critically it also requires us to stay togetger and strengthen cooperation within the EU. That is also actually exactly why the propaganda you are falling for is trying to destroy this cooperation and the EU.

        There is a lot going on and many efforts have accelerated in recent years: rapid transition to renewable energy, Gallileo, Iris2, stronger EU based defense cooperation, contingency trade framework with other global players, Digital Euro and Wero, recent push by France to fully replace Windows, Teams, MS Office in public adminustration (which later on also delivers the blueprint for the private sector to enable transition to sovereign solutions) …

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          That is also actually exactly why the propaganda you are falling for is trying to destroy this cooperation and the EU.

          If the US control the politicians then what good is strong cooperation?

          rapid transition to renewable energy

          Germany stopped nuclear energy and inhibited itself for solar energy.

          stronger EU based defense cooperation

          Nato has right of first rejection to take over conflicts, with an US general at the top.

          contingency trade framework with other global players,

          Mercosur didn’t look like we dare to fully cooperate with the backyard of the US.

          To me it looks like we are doing something but only enough that it looks like progress.

          E.g. solar energy, the Spanish blackout has shown that we cannot transport Spanish solar energy to the rest of the EU. Why do we have that limit if we care about independence? This is Trump’s second term. We had been warned.