Weird how so many techbro ideas boil down to registering your identification with the tech oligarchs…
I can’t think of anyone I would rather give unalterable biometric information to than a group of egomaniacal sadists who have shown utter disregard for the privacy of everyone as well as the legal code.
happening at the same time as age verification many tech, and websites.
Scalping Sam Altman would surely sell some tickets.
I’d buy a ticket to that.
Already sold out sadly, but I’ve got a couple I could sell you for the right price.
I don’t trust a single thing that the world’s most successful snake oil salesman of all time says.
I’m not sure I’d give him the #1 position. Definitely up there, but not quite at the top. Or maybe several megagrifters should share the throne.
Battle Royale of the megagrifters for the throne? Would surely sell some tickets, too. :3
Yeah trump beats him IMO
Trump? Musk? There’s plenty of competition for #1. Atleast AI is actually a thing.
Is it though?
Not the think Sam has been selling it as though, which makes snake oil an apt comparison.
The day I have to give some billionaire creep my biometrics to go to a show is the same day I decide I’m never going to a show again
You know what could solve ticket scalping? Ban ticket resales. That’s always been an option. Venues don’t do this because their only concern is selling out their seats.
they should just ban it for a profit, you should be able to resell tickets for what you paid for them, plans change.
I think that second thing is just called a refund.
that’s a bit harder if it’s sold out and you want to sell your ticket to your friend/coworker at cost.
It is harder if you want to resell it yourself, but that is the whole point. The right to resell a piece of paper or a code that lets you into a venue is the means by which scalpers ply their arbitrage.
It just makes more sense to allow people to have the venue refund them. Then suddenly it’s not sold out anymore.
Just as long as I can get a full refund if I’m unable to attend anymore. Maybe up to an hour before or something.
Or control the prices so people don’t overpay.
They already do that to a degree. The problem is that scalpers buy up all the tickets and then over charge people on the secondary market.
Secondary market? Like what?
Scalping is reselling goods on the secondary market for more than you bought them at the source?
TicketSwap does this and works with the venues I think.
How would you do this without verification? How do you still allow gift tickets or buying for a friend?
There’s a few ways to do this. At the other commenter said you can attach a name and require ID at the door. ID could be as common as a credit card or a school ID or even an official piece of mail. All this is less invasive than biometrics and more reliable too. Biometrics are always for convenience and not security.
If you want to get extra cautious, sell tickets at the booth for an hour or two before the doors open and up until the beginning of the show. The ticket comes in the form of a paper wristband, like they use for alcohol, and you can pay cash.
Want to buy a ticket for your friend? Use their legal name and then they show ID at the door. There’s paranoid as you? Send them cash.
There’s another option. You can buy tickets for yourself and any number of companions. Only the purchaser has to show ID, and the entire party has to come in with the purchaser.
There. And now you didn’t have to give Sam Altman legal authority to store and resell your biometric data to private surveillance networks and retail shops in exchange for seeing Taylor Swift live.
Tickets are issued to a name and are confirmed at entry with photo ID, just like with an airline ticket.
not much better than eye scanning.
also does not solve the gifting problem, because normally you don’t know the ID of your friends
You only need to know their names. Their ID matches their names to their faces.
Why shouldn’t we use biometrics for security?
Because you can’t change them once they are compromised. It breaks so many rules for security it isn’t funny.
Why are companies/government pushing for this?
It is not about security, it is about tracking. This is the opposite of security and if we continue to allow it we will have severe consequences in our future.
Every time work pushes to use 100% biometrics I have to argue and get an exception.
I’ve got form of eczema where two to four times a year all the skin on my hands flakes and falls off… There are weeks when I have no fingerprints.
They’ve only brought up facial recognition once and I said it didn’t work reliably due to my skin color and facial hair. I have no idea if that’s true, never tried it, never will, but they didn’t pursue it any further.
I always enjoy throwing out the “if you force that, there will be about two months a year where I won’t be able to login… That’s up to you, but you have to document it so I can forward it to my manager and make them aware”. Unfortunately they haven’t forced it yet.
Dishydrosis?
That’s the one. Are you a fellow lizard person that sheds your skin regularly like me?
Yes :( cursed to be a lesbian with scaly fingers
Doh : (
At least we have a valid excuse for not adopting fingerprint biometrics… Minor bright side, I guess.
(1) Offer a solution which exacerbates bot-traffic on the internet, (2) legitimize the need for verification of users as a result, (3) offer the most privacy-invasive “solution” to the “problem” imaginable: problem(1)-reaction(2)-solution(3)… every parasite’s favorite paradigm :)
Fuck off Sam
You can’t solve scalping when its a core function of LiveNation’s ecosystem. Scalping is the business model.
What a relief. As long as we are all tracked at all times by both government and corporations, we can finally be free of the burden of ticket scalping. It’s a small price to pay for this great reward. I think we can turn our attention toward solving other oppressive plagues like Jay walking and double parking now.
As far as I’m concerned, Tom Waits solved ticket scalping back in 1999. He did two shows in my area on the Mule Variations tour. When you bought tickets, you could only buy two, and you had to give a name. Not an id, just a name. And then at the door, you had to show ID. You would anyway because it was a 21-and-up show, but the name on the ID had to match the name on the ticket. They didn’t scan shit. Just the doorman glanced at the name, and compared it to what was printed on the ticket. You could buy as many pairs of tickets as you wanted under the same name, but you couldn’t then sell them to people because their ID wouldn’t match at the door.
Simple. Non invasive. It worked. The show was amazing.
Some smaller comedy venues do the same now.
Ahhh. Ticket scalping. The real issue of today’s generation that no one is courageous enough to talk about.
I mean, it is AN issue. We can do more than one thing at a time
How does this achieve anything that requiring proof of purchase doesn’t?
It achieves invading customer privacy.
Oh, and selling a lot of their scanner-ball hardware things. Because now anybody who ever buys tickets to any concert or any other live event will now also need to buy one of those little fuckers.
Because you can hand someone else proof of purchase. The only way to truly prevent scalping is by verifying the purchaser’s identity, to ensure they cannot transfer it to anyone else. At least not without selling it through the distributor’s own channels where they will then collect a fee for the privilege of providing the proprietary platform to facilitate such transactions.
I’ll take the scalping, thanks.
That’s just a failure of imagination. This problem was solved before the Information Age and Ticketmaster/LiveNation unsolved it.
It was never solved…
I’m never going to a concert again
I’m going to support local anti-authoritarian punk and hip hop until they do away with this.
Support them after as well!
Welcome to Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, because this is an idea pulled straight from that game.
