Proton claimed there was no way to appeal, but Swiss law is not bound by Interpol. I think what it really amounts to is they are not going to protect their users. This is why you don’t pay for let alone use a corporation’s services unless you willing to give up your privacy.
Proton is not your friend, they have and will continue to betray their users. Do not trust them or any corporation that is not willing to fight for their users.
Glad you can admit you are a clown. After reading that last reply where you ignored everything I had said and doubled down on accusatory nonsense I realized it. Thank you.
https://blog.reputationx.com/wikipedia-alternatives
Edit: I will give you some feedback as to what I thought was ill conceived in your statement.
First, I think beginning with “wrong” and making a subjective statement that is not what Wikipedia or Wikimedia actually have as their mission started you off on the wrong foot.
Second, a minority of actors has not prevented consensus.
Third, the UN does not have to allow war criminals a platform.
Clowns deserve a clown show.
Trying to have a discussion with someone who doesn’t care about logic or evidence is pointless, but…
Cley_faye clutching their pearls priceless
Edit: First they came for people strangulating each other causing permanent brain damage on camera and encouraging others to do so, then they came for Cley_faye’s foot fetish videos. Oh God, this is how dumb this is.
This is the type of scientific method that can put all this nonsense to rest. I really appreciate their work proving that the difference between fast/slow/30-80% is insignificant to the majority of people.
Thanks!
You have not proven your point at all. In fact, you just exposed yourself as a poor devil’s advocate who doesn’t understand the situation. Congratulations!
Your are welcome to ignore reality and play devil’s advocate. I won’t be joining you in your trip to fantasy land. Thank goodness cooler heads prevail and the UK is doing the right thing. I will lobby my own government for a similar outcome.
So you feel sorry for the fact they are legacy industry that refuses to adapt?
Actors do actually get choked so that takes care of the first part of your premise. Here is a story of it happening. There is no safe way to restrict breathing period.
https://laist.com/news/holly-deen-accusations
To the last part. It should be illegal to actually harm people on camera which is what is happening. If you think this is a over reaction you are wrong. We should not be allowing this to happen.
There is direct correlation between people watching people get choked out in porn and doing it in real life. This is not violent video games.
Please save your moral panic nonsense for cases were it is applicable. It is not here. This is simply a public health issue and the UK is doing the right thing.
Can we do Trump and his mobtards next?
Sex acts are not something that is pure and sacred that exist outside of the very real dynamics of our society.
Yes, these people (the murders from the article) literally are using the arguments that you and other people use in this discussion. They have twisted consent past the breaking point. The fucked up thing is they get away with it.
What about the accidental deaths? As I have already said adults in relationships accidentally kill each other because choking is unsafe. If you accidentally killed your partner choking them are you a murderer!? Has does consent fix this.
Consent does not take away the harm and does not make it acceptable. Should society allow the promotion of these harmful behaviors because "consent’.
I feel like you are not different than the defense attorneys arguing that these murderers are in fact just innocent people engaging in consensual sex acts. Is this really your position?
Furthermore, we are ignoring all the suffering and damage that a permissive culture causes that encourages dangerous acts without denouncing them. This is what is happening in the UK. And their response is to ban these harmful depictions.
This is not a moral panic, when over half of college women report unwanted choking. It is an epidemic.
Oxygen deprivation is not okay and consent cannot get around that. Brain damage is real. It is no different than huffing harmful substances. You are not going stand here and argue with me that it is okay for people to destroy their brains by depriving them from oxygen.
People here will sit here and argue it is okay because CONSENT. This is a disservice to the concept of consent. It is also against the morality of kink culture.
Dude, do you really need me to prove that people are accidently choked to death during sex acts around the world on a daily basis? I can’t even with you right now.
“Strangulation – fatal and non-fatal – “squeezing”, “neck compression” or, as some call, it “breath-play” – is highly gendered. On average, one woman in the UK is strangled to death by her partner every two weeks”
Where are all the men deaths from choking due to sex!?
Your inability to see what is going on is a major failing on your part. That is okay, because you didn’t know better until now.
Edit: Death does not even account for brain damage, PTSD, and the epidemic of women being choked against their will.
So then you admit that the majority of choking is without consent, unless you honestly think people are talking about the brain damage they are giving their partner. I am glad we can agree.
It is a kink issue. It goes against the kink code because there is no after care possible. Until they take responsibility for the damage they cause it is not safe and therefore a betrayal of the movement.
Yes, sex acts that lead to death that can be accidental.
Sure, if your not actually choking, strangulating, or constricting breathing in any shape or form it is okay.
Unfortunately, below is the reality that you have convinced yourself that doesn’t exist.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/jul/25/fatal-hateful-rise-of-choking-during-sex
There is no safe way to constrict breathing. What you saying is not choking or strangulation.
Comparing brain death due to strangulation to moral panic is obviously incorrect.
Your meme ignores reality, but go ahead and pat yourself on the back.
Consent required all parties to know the consequences to be fully informed. When you coerce you partner into choking without the knowledge it is causing lasting permanent brain damage you are not getting consent.
Kuhli says, “Hey baby can I give you brain death because it is my kink”
There is no after care for brain damage. This is where the kink community needs to come together to put their foot down.
Corporations can and do fight for the users. Proton is not one of these companies. I think that says all we need to know about their commitments to their users. You are welcome to continue leading people to a business that have shown that they are not willing to do what is right because profit is their primary motivation.