• itisileclerk@lemmy.world
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    7 天前

    Fucking USA, they are saying that for 60+ years. From their beloved president JFK to the current president, no difference, same shit, “I took what I want”.

  • Karna@lemmy.ml
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    7 天前

    Osama Bin Laden and most of 9/11 perpetrators were Saudis, aren’t they?

  • originaltnavn@lemmy.zip
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    7 天前

    I guess the previous war didn’t last until the elections, so time for another. On the bright side, it seems like most of our politicians here in Europe are done with joining these pointless tragedies.

  • Fleur_@aussie.zone
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    7 天前

    Well the yanks did just find out they’re literally incapable of winning a war so maybe they should be scared.

  • aarch0x40@piefed.social
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    8 天前

    😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

    Anyone who believes this bullshit is a braindead moron. What are they going to do? Spread knowledge of how to develop a decent healthcare system that doesn’t financially burden patients?

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      8 天前

      That sounds like a real threat to the interest of the American Oligarchs. So, yeah, they are technically right.

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      8 天前

      Along with how to destroy an entire’s country economy, quality of life and democracy. I don’t think either that Cuba represent any kind of threat to the US, but for a really different reason than you. You can’t defend Baphomet just to fight Lucifer, because both are two pieces of shit. And how do I lnow this? Because I personally know Cubans, and my country is going in the same direction (and is more or less the same: Venezuela).

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        8 天前

        You personally know gusanos who are still butt-hurt over their comprador parents losing their plantations.

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          7 天前

          Is that hell caused by the Cuban government or the American sanctions?

          It’s probably both, but from my perspective as an outsider, the American sanctions seem to be doing a lot more damage.

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          8 天前

          You realize the rest of the world has been able to freely travel to Cuba and come back safe and sound since the 60s, right? Like…

          We have been suffering the 42 years I’ve been alive […] It’s the kind of hell you risk anything to escape!

          ??? How the fuck do 4.7 million people visit/year on cruise ships and air planes if Cuba is suffering? I know many Canadian-Cubans that visit family and have families that visit Canada no problem.

          Americans believe so much bullshit propaganda about our country

          Yeah, and you’re literally one of them lmao

          • arrow74@lemmy.zip
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            That’s a rather weak argument. Rich people travel to plenty of dangerous places. Those places typically then develop high class resorts with security to attend to them

            Don’t mistake my comment to be saying the US is right about Cuba. It absolutely isn’t. I just don’t think “people travel there” is much of an indicator of anything

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              It’s not just in-bound tourism, I probably made the mistake of emphasizing the cruises. Notice I said that Cubans from outside of America were able to travel to visit family, and vice-versa. If it was such a hellscape, why would people choose to travel back to Cuba after leaving?

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                If it was not a hellscape why would Cubans still be leaving to declare asylum elsewhere?

                Both that claim and your claim are verifiable and true. So clearly there’s something going on that’s not as simple as “is this country a good or bad place to live”. The answer seems to be it depends. Clearly there is some kind of wealth disparity within the country.

                Some would argue these immigrants were the formally wealthy class fleeing the revolution, and that was initially true. But that was just over 60 years ago now. This doesn’t explain modern asylum seekers very well.

                To be fair I think a lot of Cuba’s struggles and failures are a direct result of decades of US embargo and interference.

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                  Some would argue these immigrants were the formally wealthy class fleeing the revolution, and that was initially true. But that was just over 60 years ago now. This doesn’t explain modern asylum seekers very well

                  To be fair I think a lot of Cuba’s struggles and failures are a direct result of decades of US embargo and interference.

                  This I can agree with. I don’t think Cuba is like…HEAVEN for people living there, by the way. But I also disagree that it was an “absolute hellscape” before the Trump Admin 1.0 came in and destroyed any forward momentum the Obama administration created towards fully lifting the embargoes, and I don’t think (as far as I know) the Biden administration did as much to reverse them. The last 12 years is really what has cemented the hardships in Cuba (and Puerto Rico, Venezuela, Nicaragua etc) are suffering from, and this is reflected in the stories of the (non-American) Cubans I hear from daily around me.

                  Then you have fuckers like Rubio pushing for taking over Cuba “for their own good” and to “save the country” and like… I’m sorry if I feel like residual bitterness of my Cuban friends and family towards American Cubans pushing this narrative colour my view.

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              In fact; is committing a fallacy of intransitivity, that’s a type of non sequitur fallacy.

              And that’s how it is in Cuba and in my country too, and that’s why I’m able to believe that about Cuba in the first place.

              The Cuban and Venezuelan governments are the same: the vast majority of the population is below the global thresholds of extreme poverty, in a very precarious situation, where basic services do not work most of the time (in my country we are privileged compared to Cuba; here at least water can reach us from time to time, even if it takes a long time [normally more than a month; although the duty is that it is always present], and the electricity is cut off 8 hours a day [at least that is how it is in the state] where alive], but there is almost no drinking water service and the normal thing is that there is no electricity; they can be without electricity service for more than 18 hours); but obviously they are not going to demonstrate that just as in Brazil they are not going to show you the Favelas, they directly create tourist areas that are a bubble isolated from the reality of the country. It is simply a political ploy to pretend that everything is fine, a facade.

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            So what you’re really saying is that Cuba’s being economically propped up by the thick rope of tourism, without which it would quickly collapse, right?

            Edit: um, guys, it’s called rhetoric… This is not my actual viewpoint lol…

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              It’s almost like the US sanctioning them (and whoever else plays along with that) is what is causing the problems. Maybe.

            • sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz
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              I know many Canadian-Cubans that visit family and have families that visit Canada no problem.

              Love how you ignored this part and focused on whatever was beneficial for propping up your worldview

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                Wow, I didn’t see the downvotes that I had accumulated. Apparently I need to edit my comment and mention that I was being satirical…

  • stumu415@lemmy.zipOP
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    8 天前

    How many distractions does this regime need from the Epstein files?

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      The capitalist and political class of the entire western world and it’s allied countries were exposed as covering up for and being pedophiles.

      This isn’t a distraction. People like you and me in the working class gave them permission to stop the charade when we didn’t chop off their heads. It’s not a distraction. It’s a continuation of it.

      They are telling you bluntly that there will be no justice without us taking it by force. They are killing innocent children NOW in Iran, Palestine, Lebanon, and Cuba. They are separating children from their parents and putting them in concentration camps on our own soil. Do you think that’s a distraction?

      The only distraction that is working is the same comment (like yours) being posted over and over that seems to weigh the importance of past crimes more heavily than the ones they are enacting now and boasting about on the news. Start caring more about the “distractions” and one day we might get vengeance for all of the children this class of pedophiles makes suffer.

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      No no. Iran was a distraction from the Epstein files. Cuba is a distraction from Iran. Greenland will be a distraction from Cuba, and Canada will be a distraction from Greenland.

      Probably.

  • dohpaz42@lemmy.world
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    8 天前

    Self hate right here. His parents were cuban immigrants. 🙄

    ~If not self hate, then a serious lack of self intestinal fortitude. Either way…~

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      Self hate right here. His parents were cuban immigrants.

      Most of the hardline anti-Castro people in the US are, I think, Cuban-American. That’s typically the reason that they’re in the US.

      I don’t know if that’s a factor for Rubio in particular, but “person with Cuban background living in the US who is very unhappy with the Castro regime” is not an oddity.

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      His parents left Cuba because they didn’t like Castro. Most Cubans that came to the US were anti-communist. I guess I can understand that, but now Rubio is using the US military and our tax money to intervene in Cuba for what are mostly reasons that are personal to him and his family history.

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    If Cuba is a threat, Hegseth really must’ve done an inconceivably bad job.