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    Things like “keep up” and " you fuckers can’t read" make you sound like a grade A collosal dickhead, by the way if that’s any concern to you.

    I read just fine and see everything you said. Doesn’t change anything.

    If you invade a country you fuck around and find out what that entails.

    They are using them the same way shit is being used against them.

    Russia hit the first civilian targets after invading them once that happens all bets are off if you come in to my country and ki my people I am going to murder yours too.

    I believe that is the way it has worked for all of history.

    And arguments like this present about bombs and shit too historically.

    This is simply the way war evolves with the technology at hand. Keep up.

    Also firefighter isn’t a black masked invader or military group lol your analogy is trash. The “booby trapping” happened after GETTING INVADED. Wasn’t there for no reason in the beginning was made as a response TO INVASION. Its simple to understand honestly.

    Maybe they ought to just line up in steaight lines again like how they used to do.

    And honestly what is it with these guns? You can kill someone a mile away with the right one, how inhumane! How horrible! You can’t even see the whites of their eyes this way!

    I know man, maybe you can just get them to drop the weapons all together and have a dialogue instead that has always worked I can’t think of a single time in history talking it out and not responding to violence with more violence hasn’t worked out.

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      They are using them the same way shit is being used against them.

      Incorrect, hence the smug title.

      If you invade a country you fuck around and find out what that entails.

      Cool so the next time France invades Libya, we should round up all of France’s citizens and send them all to death camps. Fuck around and find out right?

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        Never said they should round up the citizens and put in death camps or suggested it quit being so obtuse.

        However, for the sake of understanding I am talking about any citizen from another country that is invading that country then yes they should die that’s what happens when you invade shit.

        Also yes, I think the French soldiers that are in places like French Polynesia and shit should be expelled one way or another. Violence or voting because in that scenario they would leave if they voted for independence I think they’ve said this before.

        And if France bombs Libya or whatever then abso-fucking-lutely that country should be able to bomb their ass back. Citizens do die during this and its incredible because the way to avoid it is by not bombing other countries

        If you invade somewhere no one should have sympathy for you stay in your shit and there’s no problems. This goes for French, USAians, Russian, Germans, Chinese, humanity in general.

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          So civilians are legitimate military targets now, Herr DanceMomsSavedMe?

          And we shouldn’t worry about war crimes ever I guess? As long as ‘oh there’s no other way to save our regime’ it’s completely fine to gas a civilian populace that might house invading military members?

          I knew you guys didn’t die out in the 40s but christ you people have gotten so incredibly bold lately.

          6 years ago it would have been unthinkable to publicly state you want civilian deaths because the oppressive regime over them invaded somewhere.

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            Lol insinuating I’m a Nazi because I say that if you bomb another countries civillians they should be allowed to bomb yours back?

            That’s called collateral damage.

            Also calling anyone you disagree with a Nazi doesn’t make you look wise it makes you look stupid. I hate Nazis. And I also hate invaders. Which the Nazis were.

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              …Yes. Blaming a country’s citizens, when you allege they are under an oppressive regime and do not have a voice, makes you at best a monster.

              That is the justification used by the nazis. That is the justification used by all monsters. Grouping an entire country together for the actions of an oppressive regime is quite literally victim blaming. It’s like when the US openly bombed Baghdad and killed over 10k civilians. Everyone recognized that was a bad thing. Everyone recognizes Agent Orange was a bad thing. Everyone recognizes South Korea’s use of chemical weapons to wipe out NK civilians was a bad thing.

              If you believe the people have no choice, then bombing them is the same as killing the hostages to save them.

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                Yeah so when a country bombs your apartment buildings and community centers then you do that back.

                Hospitals and schools is obviously a line that shouldn’t be crossed whether the other side does it or not. (In this scenario the Russians have, by the way)

                But apartment buildings and shit? When they hit yours first? Fair game dude. That’s how war works.

                Obviously fucking using chemical wrapons and torture against them is not ok and also, isnt what I said in this entire thread.

                Also you seem to think I like this or get off on this. No. Its just quite simply the way wars fucking work. That’s why I think you shouldn’t start wars. But if someone starts one with you destroy them or keep fighting back until they leave, that’s literally how war is.

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                  But apartment buildings and shit? When they hit yours first? Fair game dude. That’s how war works.

                  No, it’s explicitly not. I know you’re American and thus skipped the entire part of History class based on American war crimes and the 200 countries that signed agreements to not do war crimes, but you are describing war crimes. Explicitly.

                  But if someone starts one with you destroy them, that’s literally how war is.

                  No, that is how you create a state of permanent war. The civilians that hated their government? They now exclusively hate you. They will spend the next 500 years attacking you asymmetrically doing ‘terrorism.’ And you will have EARNED that terrorism.

                  The US was rightfully attacked on 9/11. Because they were doing this. Because they always do this. When you kill civilians you create future terrorists that will dedicate their death to you.

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                    The line being used from Russia when they did this to Ukraine first is that they had military targets.

                    So if that’s true and Ukraine says the same thing where is the war crime?

                    Also if the citizens hate you because you defended yourself from being invaded then fuck them. That’s not your problem as long as you can defend yourself from them invading you again.

                    You shouldn’t be hated for defending yourself.