Teen Boys Terrorize Girls at High Schools and Middle Schools in Very Public and Easily Tracable Ways and Still No One is Stopping Them
Hoooold up just a minute. How much do these glasses cost? Like hundreds right? What kind of teen boy has that much money to burn? I sure as fuck didn’t, and I worked. Their parents bought them, and these are kids, so it’s 100% blame on the parents here.
Even if the kids bought them it is still the parent’s responsibility to keep their kid from being an obnoxious pervert.
That’s what really sucks about this.
There’s no institutional backlash. (At least not yet. That could change.)
We’re depending on parents who park these little shits in front of screens and expect to be left alone while their kids are radicalized.
The alternative is having the rich parents be responsible for the children they breed and that will never happen so suck it up poors
Rich kids. The worst type as they’re also the least likely to get meaningfully punished.
I had thousands as a teenager from around 15 years old working part time evening and weekends at barely above minimum wage.
When you have no expenses from living at home, you can save everything (and in my case blow it all on electronics lol)
Ok, middle school then
Parents with more money than sense
It’s not much different than a kid asking for a playstation or iphone for Christmas
It is because you dont use your playstation to harass girls at school
they can already use their phone for that
Those are also banned in class, or they should be, every school has different policies of course.
When I was 16 and started working, I quickly had enough money saved from working minimum wage, part time, to buy myself a car. It’s not impossible.
Also, these may be kids/young adults, but they should all know right from wrong. Blame is absolutely on the students who use these too.
No different to mobile phones or iPods or PlayStations. Pair of meta raybans are arguably cheaper than those items now due to inflation.
These devices are fundamentally different to those.
$99 I believe Kmart in Australia charges for the Anko ones.
Not sure what they connect to though
From the opening part of the article, the problem is not just the glasses. The glasses are definitely an issue that needs to be sorted out society wide, but there is a problem with how these boys are raised. Badly raised boys have always been an issue but now they are being raised by manosphere incel influencers. The glasses just let them record their harassment to post for clout and to draw others into their bullying.
I guarantee most of these schools protect the bullies and punish the victims. Like if a girl being harassed broke the glasses, she would get expelled. The world is the way it is because people enable and worship bullies across the board.
This. My friend in HS went to guidance multiple times to complain about being bullied by another classmate. After the 2nd or 3rd time requesting thy switch his class, they decided to resolve the issue by forcing them to be partners for an assignment in class. He complained again, and was told to deal with it. One day my friend finally cracked and broke the bully’s nose because he had enough and clearly the school was only willing to make this worse, so they called the police on my friend. It’s pretty insane how some things get dealt with sometimes.
Countless stories like this :(
I wish they called the police when I stood up for myself. It was sexual harassment/assault but I didn’t know that at the time, I just knew I didn’t like it so used violence. He stopped and ran off bleeding all over the place.
Totally valid self defence from a legal perspective. But they only used the threat of calling the police and I was absolutely terrified so just shut down.
Schools don’t care about bullying or sexual harassment as long as it doesn’t look bad on them. If it can be swept under the rug, they will ignore it.
At least that is my experience from schools in the UK.
Same in the US
For parents in America, we have an escalation path: school board, media, lawyer. Depending on the situation, the orders may change.
When the school make you feel like you are the one who did something wrong you are not going to tell your parents about it.
this is why advocacy groups are important
In a different video, the same boy films another upset girl approaching him with a metal stool in her hands. An adult intervenes before anyone is hurt.
Exactly, they always protect the bullies.
Humans suck at looking at things on a long timeline. “Sticks and stones”. You don’t usually see the effects of years of bullying until adulthood. Or at least not immediately. A TBI, that’ll get you fucking sued. Emotional trauma? What’s that?
Fuck they still try to blame school shootings on videogames and now tiktok.
By there not being enough consequences for these boys, not only are you making more boys like this, but not doing those boys any favours either. No one mentally healthy is going to want to be with that kind of boy.
Weak parents. Weak schools. Weak government. Failing everyone.
I blame the parents
Yeah who the hell is buying creeper glasses for kids to wear at schools. This is messed up.
Stop blaming the kids, it’s the corporation’s fault. Title should be Meta glasses are recording and enabling harassment of underaged school children
Yeah. The kids are just the last part of the chain of failure here. Why is Meta producing such a thing? Why the fuck are parents buying several hundred dollars worth of spy glasses for their children and sending them to school with them without any supervision? And what the fuck is the school doing here? The first report of someone harassing other pupils with such a device should be reason to ban them and take hard discipline measures against the harrasser
These kids absolutely know it’s wrong. Stop enabling bullies. The kids should NOT get a pass for this just because some corporation did something wrong first.
The glasses shouldn’t exist but what parents are buying these for their kids?! Blame the parents too.
supplier first then the chain…everyone is blamed
And a lot of enabling parents.
10000000%
Can someone explain why this isn’t actually a solution to an old problem? We used to have issues with various forms of harassment that were not addressed because they relied on unreliable testimony. Now we actually have people creating hard evidence of their actions.
The behaviors described in this article are banned in every school I or my children have ever attended. How difficult would it be for the parents of any of these victims to hire a lawyer to absolutely wipe the floor with these people? Don’t these videos basically put the perpetrators heads on silver platters?
Crime usually comes before punishment. Right now the system is working it’s way into figuring out how to deal with this new social dynamic. Like you, I think it’s pretty straightforward. We won’t solve the core reason for the bullying dynamics though. I think humans that adhere to gendered thinking will be behind on that for a good long while yet.
It would be pretty messed up if the punishment came before the crime.
My point, in this case is that the crime has been ongoing. Bullying and harassment aren’t new. What’s new is that we now have a lot of it recorded. This gives us an unprecedented ability to prosecute a class of crimes that people have been committing with impunity.
The biggest downside is that it would likely be short-lived. If there were a bunch of headlines about people getting giant civil judgements, bullies would probably learn to be more careful about generating evidence of their crimes.
That would likely initially focus on attempting to hide the videos from the general public but I suspect they would eventually learn that doesn’t work; courts can compel discovery. They would probably also try to modify their on-screen behavior so it doesn’t technically qualify as a crime but I expect they would mostly fail at that.
That said there would likely always be some cohort of dumb criminals who continue to record their misdeeds. We still see cases where people discuss their crimes over unencrypted email and we still see cases of criminals taking selfies with their crimes
You assume that action will actually be taken on the perpetrators here.
Sort of.
I am making an assumption that there are some people who are likely highly motivated to take action. Parents often care about bullying of their own children, even when the rest of the school doesn’t. We wouldn’t need all parents to care, just a few of them.
I’m not assuming that lawyers are generally willing to work for free but I do assume that they like money and are willing to take cases on contingency, if they think the case is strong enough.
I’m also going on my understanding that video evidence tends to be fairly strong and that this translates into a higher probability of a favorable judgement with less work on the lawyer’s part.So it’s less that I’m making an assumption than that I’m asking where the gap in the above reasoning chain lies.
People are being disgusting, using technology that was designed to be stealthy on purpose by others for disgusting reasons (to normalize allowing ever greater data collection by tech companies - no surprise the privacy protections are trivially easy to defeat), and are posting videos online for a reason - that they get satisfaction from it.
I guess I don’t care if this makes me sound old or callous, but we need to bully these people. Make the people who post and share these videos embarrassed. Tell them they look like stupid losers who can’t get dates or talk to people. Make them feel bad for not being kind and socially connecting with others. Give them no community or understanding until they stop breaking the social contract.
What social contract? The kids wearing these can’t value something they’ve never known.
the only 3 usecases for these are:
Assholes
Perverts
Blind people - sucks for them, because the first two are going to ruin it before it benefits anyone with disabilities
Yeah recording ICE activities might be another valid one
Though that could be done with another type of concealed camera I guess
so I’ve given that one some thought and came away with this: if ice / pd detains you, they’re going to take your recording devices. I need my glasses to see enough to walk around.
also, even more gross: they know what to look for, because until recently, ICE was using these devices. That’s been banned, but probably only because they’re making their own.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/ice-banned-meta-glasses-now-154840012.html
Oh look, they’d know and I’ll be honest, I saw someone else post that on here in another thread, liked their point and I’ve given it no thought other than looking like an observer, not recording. And, I’ll add, I’m not in the US so I don’t have local knowledge.
I’d support their use case for it though.
these might not have cell plans, but it wouldn’t be hard to make one with esim support and a panic livestream button so they can’t delete the recording.
perhaps? actually sounds like a project aaaand a privacy nightmare, unfettering these devices from whatever protections for the public meta engages in…
I’m all about surveilling ICE and law enforcement but… I don’t see these devices as an alternative at the end of the day.
recording teachers should be another valid use, you would bot believe the number of times teachers don’t do their legally mandated reporting and brush everything under the rug
“Hey everyone, this asshole is wearing smart glasses and recording us all. Question is: are they going to remove them right now, or are we?”
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.pocketpc.nearbyglasses
Why is the minimum age not 18?
Creeps exist above 18 years old too…
Yes but starting with an age limitation is a start on these damn things.
in what world is age restricting a relatively normal camera a reasonable decision?
How the fuck is this a “relatively normal” camera, or ANY kind of “normal”? People like you are the reason these companies get away with shit like this.
because there isn’t anything particularly special about it other thsn it being a mass market product
When it breaks laws. My area has two-party consent laws, so recording someone, whether audio or video, without their explicit consent is against the law. Children are often not held to the fullest extent of the law, and if they cannot be held responsible, then they shouldn’t have access to such devices until they can be.
I’m not naive to think that these devices will just go away or that the genie can go back into the bottle. But that is where regulation must act to protect people’s privacy rights.
what ia the difference between this and a phone taped inside of a shirt?
perhaps it’s time to jump back to reddit.
they’ll tolerate your feigned stupidity over there.
creep detected
It’s ok, their parents will take care of the situation.
Ah-hahaha, what a joke.
@madeindex I’m shocked that someone who made his fortune scaling up a website he made to rate the looks of female students at Harvard could come up with something creepers would use to harass women and girls.
Here they’re not even allowing students to carry mobile phones inside of schools. How is this even allowed?
Here they’re not even allowing students to carry
Thought for sure you were setting up an “Americans Love Guns” joke.
Yeah no shit letting people go around with concealed recording equipment is resulting in problems. Especially in a fucking school!
So the same bullying that always happens is now visible and that’s the core problem people see. The glasses, not the bullies wearing them or the bullying recorded. Watch teachers and schools fight the recording, that make evidence fall right into their laps, so they can go back to ignoring bullying in their schools and then act shocked when serious fights, or worse happen.
Actually a good point, the bullying and sexual harassment was always there with or without the glasses.
The glasses give them a new option for harassment, but it happens either way.
