They have dealt with enough of our shit honestly.

Nah shut it down and give it to the Cubans. There are easier ways to deal with the Epstein class.

“There are, in fact, tankers coming through now, Iranian tankers, I believe some Chinese flag tankers have come through. So we know that they have not mined the straits.”

You’re understanding of the situation is not based on how mines work in the straight.

More proof they aren’t currently interested in mines and likely haven’t deployed them yet.

I think the writing is already on the wall. The longer this goes on will just accelerate the time tables.

At this point Iran having the bomb would be more stabilizing for the region than if they are prevented from it.

The straight is a very narrow area to cover. Tankers are slow moving through the straight. It’s just different than trying to deny a wide open space from both vehicles and infantry.

Drones didn’t exist in 1980s. It is a completely different landscape.

The fact that the only source is the White House, the same White House posting gamer propaganda memes makes the entire thing suspect.

Do you think a competent offer, that is looking to embarrass the western narrative would only be made available for less than 24 hours?

Stop and think man, these aren’t blood crazed actors you have been told they are.

Why would they even need to?

They are clearly capable of shutting it down without the mines. They offered safe passage to any countries willing to expel US/Israeli diplomats yesterday.

What makes you think that?

It all seems like the White House made it up so they could claim a win by disarming mines that were never placed.

They are desperate for a narrative that makes them look competent.

You think one person trying to have a conversation with you is a brigade?!

Truly wild how my server scares .world into hallucinations.

Edit: he tagged me from a conversation in this thread and still doesn’t even realize he is only talking to one person…

I pass your litmus test for engagement. You are kind of missing my point and talking past me though so you’re not passing mine.

At the end of the day you’re angry or upset or critical at the wrong people. Voter apathy is the issue at hand and milquetoastyness is the problem.

You would rather place blame on people voting FOR SOMETHING, than the party who has shit the bed so many times that the majority of Americans dont vote at all. Truly oblivious to the fact you’re misplaced criticism might just be the straw to break the camels back on those people’s engagement.

I have to wonder if liberals started blaming democrats for their shortcomings if the party would actually change and become electable.

These deaths would not have occurred if Biden had put someone in charge of the DoJ willing to prosecute Trump for… anything really.

See how easy this is?

The Islamic regime itself is responsible for a lot more deaths.

STOP JUSTIFYING THIS. YOU. ARE. BRAINWASHED.

I mean 3 downs in a single day due to “friendly fire” is already suspect enough. Now that the number is growing it’s hard to chalk that up to pure incompetence.

Stories from Veitnam veterans about how this number gets “fixed” by reporting downs as ground to air in order to perpetuate the notion of air superiority.

Not saying that is the case here, but take the US story with a grain of salt.

Quite possibly the biggest political blunder ever admitting this.

They just seriously do not understand the ground has shifted with Isreal. Dem base support has cratered due to the, ya know, genocide straight to their phones. All while the Republican base has empowered the biggest edge lords possible who think it’s fun to be antisemitic.

The pressure is already on as the American population watch their tax dollars literally blow up, and it’s only going to increase as gas prices go through the roof. Not even considering the death toll is likely already higher than what they are reporting.

Absolutely fucked.

If you make the barrier to entry high enough that only people with money can get issued new and secure ssn would be one way.

The more devious thing would to just not allow folks on your “terrorist” list to be allowed new numbers. Now you would have a new way to justify filling your concentration camps.

To be clear I don’t think currently anything like this is planned, this would just be the most fucked up way fascists could capitalize on their own fuck up. Also probably the only reason they would consider going through the hassle of a ssn restructuring.