borari

So as I understand it from conversations surrounding the USB-C stuff and other things the EU was trying to enforce on US headquartered companies, “doing business in” means the company has a registered subsidiary in that region, they have local payment processors, etc. So Meta does business in the EU or UK because they sell advertising space to businesses in those regions that target users in those regions, and the ad fees are paid to that local subsidiary through local payment processors.

Ofcom is not demanding that age verification is implemented for all users world wide, but for UK users. 4Chan can decide to not comply (which I think is good), but then it is not surprising that if you keep doing business in the UK (not blocking UK users/IPs) that fines (which 4chan will just ignore as they are not UK based) and possible bans on your service in the UK follow.

I think we’re on the same page. Ofcom can’t force 4chan to do anything, because they don’t have jurisdiction over 4chan. They can’t force 4chan to implement age verification, or to implement geoblocks. They can issue fines if they feel like it, but they’re uncollectible.

So ultimately that’s what’s so ridiculous and goofy and annoying about all this shit. Ofcom is acting like foreign companies with no business operations in the UK are subject to its decisions. They are not. Ofcom should have never tried regulating entities it has no authority over, it just makes them look silly and naive.

The UK has every right to restrict their own residents access to things that are illegal internally. Just like how they have customs controls at their physical borders to prevent illegal physical items from being imported, they should have just blocked 4chan off the rip instead of trying to fine them.

Holy shit that photo in one of their bedrooms is unhinged. There’s wallpaper for a 2 year old kid up, then a fucking nazi flag pinned to the opposite wall. wtf.

The part where they have any infrastructure, operations, revenue, or presence at all in the UK. They don’t, so the UK doesn’t have jurisdiction. This isn’t like the Apple stuff, where physical Apple products are being sold at retail in the EU/UK. UK residents are intentionally navigating to a website outside UK jurisdiction. If a UK resident goes to Mallorca on holiday, Spanish laws, not UK laws, apply because they’re in fucking Spain.

Also you should probably click that About page on the linked blog dude. Unless some American just randomly wound up at UCL in 1988 then graduated, stayed in the UK, and got a job at UCW Aberystwyth, you might want to rethink the random bullshit you’re spouting off as fact lol. By all means keep going off about how British ppl are “USians” and “US idiots” though.

Oh, ok. You seem to kind of have a bone to pick with GN lol. Anyway, this all just proves fame is relative and we all live in a bubble of our own constructed reality.

Im going to take a charitable read on this and just assume that you’re misunderstanding or uninformed of the context at the core of this, because nothing of what you said is really applicable.

Literally never heard of the guy.

Jfc. I thought this might be in response to the whole Gamers Nexus thing, and Google finally recognizing that it’s trivial to weaponize their copyright strike system against anyone’s channel.

People have been dropping the preceding adjective. It used to be that temp bans were handed out for first violations or accumulated minor violations, with the severity of the violation dictating whether it was a temporary ban of hours, days, weeks, or months.

Really egregious violations, or a pattern of temp bans not changing the users behavior would trigger a permanent ban.

I also hate the use of “ban” alone to mean temporary. The default use of “ban” should, does, mean permanent. If it’s temporary, it should be specifically conditionalized as such. I don’t really know when this started or how we got here, but it’s fucking annoying.

Yeah that’s a good point. I work in a space that’s still very much traditional networks with tiered enclaves accessed by strictly controlled company owned machines, so I tend to forget that zero trust networks and being your own pc places exist tbh.

Ah. That makes more sense.

If you can connect to the company vpn from the companies WiFi, they’ve configured their networks wrong.

Ah ok I see what you were saying. Honestly I think we’ll see physical media first, like multilayer Blu-ray Discs or something, that drive the initial adoption, just like with 4K. One people get a taste of it, demand will force streamers to offer it at a premium tier, until it eventually just becomes normalized.

But yeah I think it’s gonna be way slower than the buildup to 4K also.

Wait what? Are you implying that if there was demand for 8k content, then pirates would make it available? The content has to exist in order for pirates to release it.

I can download a remux of the 4K Lawrence of Arabia transfer because it was filmed in 70mm and the studio transferred it at 4K. It’s 70mm film, so it’s ~8-12K equivalent, but to actually get that resolution they would have to scan that film at that resolution, then go through the whole video workflow, color correction, whatever tf idk I’m not a video engineer, at that resolution, and render out the final version at that resolution.

Pirates aren’t doing that, they’re ripping physical or digital releases. And there’s no point in downloading an 8K upscale of a 4K release, just let your TV or your Shield or Infuse handle the upscaling.