

No maybe just active poisons.
But again: I know this is unrealistic.


No maybe just active poisons.
But again: I know this is unrealistic.


So for context, I actually drink, more than I probably should. I have a well stocked home bar, and trying or inventing new cocktails is almost a hobby for me and my partner.
I also come from a country with a veeeeeeery ingrained alcohol culture.
I’d still vote for an alcohol ban. Yes this is hypocritical when looking at my current habits. I don’t really have a point here, beyond saying that, even if banning alcohol is unrealistic, drinking alcohol being gone from the world is still a good idea in principle, the same as with tobacco.


Look at what happened with alcohol prohibition.
This is vastly different. Alcohol prohibition took alcohol away from people. This law does not. No-one who is currently smoking is being banned from doing so.
It also doesn’t have to work 100% to be a good idea. This will absolutely reduce the number of new smokers in the UK.


Comments in here really trying to argue for big tobacco, just because they don’t like the word “ban”. Edgy contrarians.
A lot of what has been coming from the UK government has been shit, but this is just plain GOOD. There’s no reason anyone should be smoking. This law prevents a new generation from becoming smokers. “Education” alone clearly hasn’t worked well enough.
I think the text is somewhat dubious in its arguments, but this (and the arguments built on this assertion) is just plain wrong:
[Signals servers have] a few important pieces of data;
Message dates and times Message senders and recipients (via phone number identifiers)
Signal clients implement the Pond protocol. As a result, Signals servers know who a message is for (obviously, how else do you get the message) but cannot know who it is FROM.
I’ve been playing around with implementing a secure/private messenger demo for myself, and have been consistently impressed with how privacy preserving Signal is when reading their papers and code. I wish it was selfhostable, but apart from that, it’s great.
The server would be NICE to be OSS, but ultimately, privacy breaches are prevented client/protocol side.


What’s the median though? Through burnout, chronic illnesses,… some people are out sick for weeks or months at a time. That moves the average significantly.
Also e.g. parents becoming sick via their children more than they would on their own. And so on.
In any case - this isn’t really an issue, is it? It has worked without issue for a long time. This is simply an attempt to reduce workers’ rights and reduce spending at the cost of the poor and middle class, because the top few percent are sacred to the CDU.


It’s used for when you are sick.


No. As the other person said. The answers to the zkp do not refer to each other. All the site knows is SOME user was not 18 yesterday, and today SOME user is 18 (or 24… or 89…). No relation between the two zkps/certs.


There isn’t one. Local, on-device zero knowledge proof in a cross-platform OSS app. You scan your ID’s NFC tag, once. Site only gets “is over 18 y/n” info. We all already have these IDs and they are used for a bunch of stuff, from doing taxes to creating bank accounts.
This doesn’t make a call to government servers.
The app (or desktop application BTW, incl. Linux) reads your national ID’s NFC tag, once. When you need to prove your age, the app locally computes a zkp that only tells the site “at least 18yo yes/no”.
Note that every EU country has a form of national ID, and the digital capabilities of these IDs are already used for a bunch of stuff (e.g. taxes, bank account creation,…). This doesn’t worsen the privacy situation for EU citizens, but instead ensures that no privacy-unfriendly solutions emerge.


Agreed. The “parents are too blame” crowd is insane to me. How are you gonna control what your kid does on the wifi hotspot Derek in the last row on the school bus created?
The app (open source, cross platform, completely locally, no photo id, no 3rd parties involved) only provides sites with a yes/no on “is person over 18?”, via an on-device zkp.
So good luck pitching a solution that is more privacy friendly than this, because this is pretty much the perfect solution. I’m honestly elated that the EU is releasing this, because it means I’ll NOT need to deal with privacy-nightmare situations like in other countries where legislation came before a technical solution. This lays a fantastic baseline for the EU to force companies to use THIS solution for age verification, essentially killing the data harvesters dead.
If you use nixos, you basically have to know/learn/use day-to-day the nix language.
nixpkgs are written using nix the language, using concepts mostly familiar from just using nixos.
Basically everyone using nixos is capable of contributing packages.
Just gonna leave this here


Did they still not release the actual torrents though?


And why would they implement it in a somewhat private manner if it could be implemented in a privacy-infringing manner?
I honestly don’t think most democratic governments have an interest in making this privacy-infringing. Lobbyists/companies on the other hand… But all the more reason to write legislation that ensures age verification must be handled like this.
That already tells the government that I’m accessing porn because why else would I need to confirm I’m an adult online?
Cinema rickets for FSK18 movie? Ordering alcohol? Gambling? Renting a car?
Basically anything you’re only allowed to do as an adult.
But that’s kind of why I mentioned, it’s just one rough draft for such a protocol.


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It’s mostly just that I don’t want the government to know precisely which websites I visit. Nor do I want the the porn sites to know exactly who I am.
I understand, I want that too. It’s easily possible though (just one example for a scheme):
Alternatively, if we go the “device has an age bracket field browsers access” route, it’s even simpler, and just as if not more privacy preserving.
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