Online pornography showing strangulation or suffocation is to be made illegal, as part of government plans to tackle violence against women and girls.
It follows a review which found depictions of choking were “rife” on mainstream porn sites and had helped normalise the act among young people.
Both the possession and publication of such material will be a criminal offence, under amendments to the Crime and Policing Bill currently going through Parliament.
Then, campaign and propose laws to prevent actors from getting choked or mistreated for real. Not a free ban on content. Put in place a framework for safe recourse for these actors, especially in an industry that’s usually shut off, instead of turning them down for being in the “adult movie business”. Provide protection for people coming out denouncing unlawful activites instead of putting them on the spot. Have strong incentive for directors to not do it that way, where even a single report gets seriously looked at and would cost them more money than it brings back.
In summary, actually protect people instead of just setting up yet another strawman.
Fiction is fiction. If your call is protecting actor, then I wholeheartedly agree. But your position in this discussion is not that; it’s ban this or that content from existing. That’s a very different, very slippery slopey topic.
Censoring media is never the right thing. You’ll never make me change my mind on that. I’m dead set on not having censorship while protecting people; you’re dead set on encouraging censorship blindly.
Your are welcome to ignore reality and play devil’s advocate. I won’t be joining you in your trip to fantasy land. Thank goodness cooler heads prevail and the UK is doing the right thing. I will lobby my own government for a similar outcome.
There is no good outcome with arbitrary censorship. You’re only giving the rope to hang yourself. Congratulation.
You have not proven your point at all. In fact, you just exposed yourself as a poor devil’s advocate who doesn’t understand the situation. Congratulations!
Murder is illegal. Would you advocate against murder in movie? Guess not, uh?
Let’s make choking people illegal… wait, that’s already the case. At least I hope it is. Would you advocate against choking in movies? Yes?
Nice double standards you got. YOU outed yourself as someone that’s ok with censoring things that don’t relate to them, on the flimsiest of pretense, without actually caring about actual people involved. You just want something you dislike to disappear, and use imaginary justification.
If you were advocating to protect victims? Sure. If I was saying “nah, choke women away!” then sure, I’d be wrong. I’m saying banning something will not change anything. And you’re hell-bent on banning things.
Unless you’re born yesterday, it is transparent that such laws are rarely, if ever, about protecting anyone. It’s about setting up a mechanism to arbitrarily forbid contents and idea. But, I guess you’re a-ok with that, and don’t care either about actual people that gets rolled over by this. At no point you took the side of the supposed “victims” during filming, nor the “victims” of people supposedly “inspired” by porn, that are actually not the victim of porn, but the victim of lunatics that wants to physically dominate other, did it before porn, and will continue after porn. If at a single point in time you considered these people instead of crusading for “no, choking bad, ban imagery of choking!” you’d have gotten it.
Trying to have a discussion with someone who doesn’t care about logic or evidence is pointless, but…
Cley_faye clutching their pearls priceless
Edit: First they came for people strangulating each other causing permanent brain damage on camera and encouraging others to do so, then they came for Cley_faye’s foot fetish videos. Oh God, this is how dumb this is.
Wow, not addressing any single issue raised and citing people in derogatory ways. You sure made your point clear. I’m sure you’re the man in every party you would go.
Clowns deserve a clown show.
And you’re getting it.