Lots of venture capital money behind it. I wonder how quickly the enshitification will begin.
I will never return to walled garden internet. You burned all your good will by being greedy and horrible.
Walled gardens go against the spirit of the Internet, anyway.
Digg dug its own grave.
Figured I’d sign up to preserve my username just in case, but it doesn’t work without an app. Oh well.
These sites are supposed to be gateways to the internet. Why the fuck would you put that in any app other than a browser?
i’m talking out of my ass right now but I assume they will get better revenue using an app to show ads and collect info
The article said the public beta opens on Wednesday.
We left Digg for Reddit about 20 years ago because of enshitification, the same way we left Reddit for the Fediverse recently, there is no way I am going back to Digg!
No but this time will be different I’m sure!! I’m sure they’ve learned their lessons from their past mistakes. Trust me on this… I’m a dolphin
I specifically remember the exodus from DIGG as the start of reddit sucking.
Same here 😂
Oh look, another centralized social media site owned by tech bros!
But currently its quite cool!!1!
This is like the 3rd time digg is trying to exist.
4th, really: Popular Digg, the version that drove people to Reddit (which they labeled as v4), whatever it languished as after that and before now where I think users could only comment, and the new site that just went live.
You mean the digg everyone ditched for reddit when they went insane? That digg?
I think some people don’t even realize that digg used to be way more popular than that very basic reddit thingy nobody used.Digg was started before reddit and I think reddit took the upvote idea and went with it. When digg switch to the new layout and then to the news only crap everyone went to reddit like I hope everyone will to the fedeverse. I use to watch the Screensavers and was there when Kevin Rose came on.
IMO it’s inevitable now that they’ve made it harder for users to customize their experience (API debacle). The site will have to change over time, and it will gradually piss people off. Eventually old.reddit will no longer be worth the cost to maintain.
No, they built a completely new product.
still the same company though. why trust them not to fuck it up like they did before?
It’s also not the same company. More than a few years have passed, and even though Kevin Rose is involved, you can assume a few lessons were learned.
So in any case they’ll fuck it up in an entirely new way. Or, maybe, they won’t.
Fuck all of these silicon valley parasites.
Even before they maximize revenue and as a result enshitify the site, the government and monied interests will have or be able to get their hooks in them, to influence moderation, visibility, allowing influence ops now going nuclear with government connected ones utilizing the cutting edge chat bots, along with agents and bots. Some half of all interactions are fake as such now they think.
We need to make federated social media a thing. Like this, but better instances making it more usable to get tje critical mass of users.
Yeah… no. None of that sounds appealing.
‘Curbing toxicity with AI’ means a bot is going to ban you because it doesn’t recognise sarcasm.
And ‘new tech to verify your identity’ sounds like a privacy violation at best.
‘Verifying that you own a product before they let you post in its community’ is a complete lack of understanding of how people use places like this.
Digg can fuck right off.
Yeah, the verifying that you own a product thing is so dumb.
“Hey <insert product> community. I’m thinking about purchasing <insert product>, but I wanted to know if it can do X, Y, and Z.”
“your post has been deleted because you have not proven that you own <insert product>.”
Wow, it’s like they made Reddit even worse.
“Hi I wasn’t paid six dollars on Fiverr to post here” (does increase costs obviously but marginally for high-margin/volume products)
While AI obviously is not perfect and is flawed in many ways, having AI sift through the torrent of comments and then flag problematic submissions for human review is likely going to be extremely effective with minimal false positives. Though I do say this as a person whose Reddit account is currently banned for 3 days for “inciting violence” because of a knife-based joke.
I got banned from reddit last week for “threatening violence” basically because my comment contained the word “die.” It wasn’t a verb.
Reddit is super aggressive with this shit now. If you say “Don’t drink bleach, that would kill you.” Their AI bullshit just sees “kill you” and bans you for threats.
Site is fucking useless, don’t even bother at this point. It’s mostly robots talking to other robots at this point anyway.
Meh. I got banned just for saying something about stabbing Donald Trump in the neck and watching him bleed out before alerting the staff of the Urgent Care I was waiting all day in. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ai flagging for human review is likely the best option.
The problem is that the humans reviewing things are biased, assholes with no sense of humor.
Ah I see someone else suffering the same shit as myself. Inciting violence for comparatives is what happened to me. No, neither side should celebrate violence. Human life is invaluable.
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Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
Digg still exists?!
Is it federated?
I was interested for like 15-20 seconds until I realized I have this place now and I actually don’t give an exploding flying fuck
Plus, Rose suggests Digg could use signals acquired from mobile devices to help verify members — for instance, the app could identify when Digg users attended a meetup in the same location.
Maybe I’m being paranoid, but this does not sound like a good thing for privacy.
You are absolutely right about that. Passively detecting your location? Fuck that. We are getting into an era where bots are overwhelming and user verification is a valid topic to discuss. I think additional device permissions can be one element in that discussion. But this idea he popped off the dome is a miserable example of such.
“Hi! We’ve just noticed there are 2 other members of d/footfettish next to you, go say hi!”
Low key win for kink communities.
What’s the point of this when Fediverse is technologically superior?
Very rarely is superior tech remotely a factor in how good a product is or how well it’s received.
I think all of these platfroms live from the engagement of the users there. I like Lemmy, but I’m also still on Reddit, because in some communities, there’s just so much more activity on Reddit than in the same community here.
Technology, UI and everything is fine and important. But if the place seems rather dead it will also struggle to attract new users.
Superior technology does not necessarily mean a superior product. History has plenty of examples where the inferior technology won out because the majority of people don’t care about having the best or most advanced technology, they want the easiest, cheapest and (most importantly) lowest effort.
To be clear, I don’t think digg is a superior product either, I’m just saying that how good the tech is matters far less than people want to believe. What truly matters is the implementation.
