All the stories on the FP are about labor relations and corporate shenanigans. So anyway, do you like Star Trek or Star Wars better? Anybody still ike to read old school sci fi, for example I really love Poul Anderson’s Polesotechnic League stories - the swashbuckling adventures of intersteller trador Nicholas van Rijn and his Solar Spice and Liquors company, David Falkayne, et al. Good old basic space opera.
Back in the days of Star trek the next generation, Voyager and Deep Space 9, I Would say Star Wars is not really Science Fiction but Science Fantasy.
But unfortunately that’s become true for Star Trek too.As Science Fiction I clearly prefer old school Star Trek, but as Science Fantasy Star Wars does it way better IMO.
I hadn’t heard about Poul Anderson’s Polesotechnic League stories before, they look very interesting, I’ll bookmark that for when I feel like some old school SciFi. 👍 😀
To be fair, Star Trek always had its fantasy element as well. They dressed it up with Treknobabble a lot, but many of the episodes had fundamentally fantasy elements as well. Like, remember the time Kirk gets beamed down to a planet where the inhabitants use literal, actual magic and it turns out the Salem witches were actual witches?
You are absolutely correct, I’d also argue Q is more fantasy than SciFi, it’s probably more correct to say Star Trek was MOSTLY SciFi, while Star Wars had more fantasy elements as a fundamental part of the Universe that are the basis for the stories.
Personally I consider time travel as absolutely a fantasy element, I see no reason to believe the past and future exist at the same “time” as the present. Which makes time travel basically nonsense.
All time travel speculation quickly ends out in either infinities or paradoxes. Only a very careful author, who set up strict limitations prevent that.
To be honest I’m extremely tired of all the time travel babble Star Trek has turned into, where time travel is a key element of the stories.
+1 for an actual tech focused community. I think it has to be focused on software or hardware as a rule. News about stocks, CEOs, rebranding etc should not be allowed. Maybe put them in tech_news or something.
I want to read about what new feature the openbsd folks are working on or innovations by the quebes os team or a new RISC based laptop or the raspberry pi 420 that can play half life 3.
“Business” also exists. If it’s news about the business, not the technology, it should go to Business.
Poul Anderson mentioned 🗣️ 🗣️🗣️
He and H.Beam Piper are my favorite SF writers, be sure to check Three Hearts and Three Lions, the book where the hero solves fantasy problems with Science™.
In my late 20s at a sci fi con, a friend came up and said, “Here’s someone I’d like you to meet,” and suddenly I was face to face with Poul Anderson. He was one of my idols - I had read the crap out of his work for years and years. I was so gobsmacked all that came out of my mouth was, “How do you say your first name?” Worst fail of my life.
New age sci-fi, but you have GOT to read the Murder Bot books. They are absolutely incredible. They’ve also won Nebula and Hugo awards.
Martha Wells… cool, thanks!
Y’know, I was just browsing earlier and thinking that there wasn’t even any technology stuff in my feed anymore, it’d all been subsumed by the political churn…
Anyhow, to answer properly: I like Star Wars’ aesthetic better, but Star Trek also had some incredible stuff. I’ve also been increasingly burned out on Star Wars since the Disney takeover, to the point I barely follow it anymore. Back in the day I was neck-deep in the community of nerds who loved analyzing how the technology in the setting worked!
But the real love of my science-fiction life is Babylon 5. Something about how they planned the show’s myth arc out over multiple seasons leading to huge payoffs for both characters and the overall story.
Disney is really milking it, but I loved Andor.
I only watched a few episodes of Babylon 5 when it was new, but recently started at the beginning and I think it’s a great show now.
Love TNG and DS9, currently reading the Ringworld series
seveneves was a banger, if you haven’t read it just go in hot.
Star Trek for the technology and exploration (both of space and the human condition). Star Wars because WOW that dude just moved that shit with his FREAKIN’ MIND!
Think about the technology we have now - a lot of it was inspired by Star Trek technology. Communicators -> smartphones/watches, shuttle -> Rovers, non invasive medical diagnosis, large screens, video calls. And that’s just from TOS. And I’m pretty sure people are still working on creating Transporters.
I have a soft spot for star wars but only the first 3, probably because I was young and it was so breathtaking.
So now I roll with star trek, especially the older ones.
But back on track, Where are the robots? The DIY? The fun stuff. Where are posts about a new ESP32? Some portable 3D printer (probably garbage, lets have a flame war!), how to use phone chargers to get 20 vilts to your led strip, funky homelab setups and deals, better network stuff, even retro computing I’d say.
Yeah, block all the boardroom chatter and bring back real tech!
Everything I needed to learn about SciFi I learned from watching Prisoners Of Gravity on TVO. The host Rick Green was always interesting to listen to. I learned there was far more scifi than just TrekWars
Or you could start posting about the technology related things you expect to see here?
Why tho? Politics and social issues are clearly what people want here - and that’s fine, my objection is just calling the community “Technology” when that’s not at all the dominant theme. Maybe “Tech-Adjacent” would be better.
Star Trek for me, I think (though oddly, I’ve played in a Star Wars tabletop RPG but never a Star Trek RPG). My wife and I started watching Deep Space 9 from the beginning about a month ago. I had seen some of it a while back (not everything, busy with school at the time). She had never seen it. We just finished season 1.
I don’t think it qualifies as “old school”, but I do like the Vorkosigan books.
Lately I’ve been on kind of a Scalzi kick. I’m partway through the Interdependency series.
I feel like in a post-global pandemic world, where we have AIs that can pass the Turing test, VR world’s where we can do global virtual raves, and if one cobbles enough cutting edge tech together one can say “earl Grey, hot” and a 3d printer can print up a model of a tea cup… I think scifi writers have to come up with what is NEXT.
No more “Oh this logical robot which can either be a metaphor for autism or enslaved people want to be free and human”. Give us projections on our current technology and social evolution. Shows set in the year 2200 shouldn’t just be dealing with the emergence of AI and still have only straight nuclear families.
True, most sci fi about the future just overlays fancy gadgets on top of present-day culture, and every robot is Pinocchio and wants to be a real boy. But if an author tried hard to speculate about future life it would probably be too unfamiliar and unrelatable to sell a lot of books - and I don’t really blame them for not wanting to put readers in a too-unfamiliar world, they’re trying to entertain not write white papers. Also consider the reaction to a writer who made it okay for an robot to get fulfillment out of just functioning perfectly. OMG no, we can’t give that toxic idea any breathing space. Every entity must long for Freedom like an angst-ridden teenager or the writer will be accused of shilling for the system.
I am firmly Star Wars, my wife is Star Trek. It’s a mixed marriage. We both love Firefly and Doctor Who.
I have not yet shown her Battlestar Galactica.
Whoa!
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold it right there.
What about Babylon 5?!?
I love Babylon 5 and she loves what she has seen of Londo and G’Kar, but she hasn’t seen a lot of it.
She says: “Oh? You mean DS9?”
I watched a lot more Star Trek as a kid but it’s always the Star Wars universe that I feel drawn to. I can’t really quantify it, I think it’s just an aesthetic thing. I suppose Star Wars feels more ‘wild west’.
Old school sci-fi: am re-reading the Asimov robot stories again. Always something new to reflect on.
Star Wars does feel more wild west. One thing I’ve wanted ever since TOS ended was a series about low-end people in the Star Trek universe - the crew of a little spaceship, on a par with Harry Mudd or Cyrano Jones (the tribble dude) making their way around the galaxy, having only occasional involvement with Starfleet. Basically what Firefly gave us, which is one reason I LOVED that show. What a shame it only lasted one season.
