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- world@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- world@lemmy.world
The joint statement from the E3 — France, Germany, and the United Kingdom — is a master class in evasion. “We did not participate in these strikes, but are in close contact with our international partners, including the United States and Israel,” they declared. The text also lists all the references and rationalizations used by Iran hawks — “nuclear program, ballistic missile program, regional destabilization and repression against its own people.”
Not a single reference to the international law that explicitly prohibits aggression. It is particularly Orwellian that the European leaders “urge the Iranian leadership to seek a negotiated solution,” when Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi was literally doing exactly that the day earlier in Geneva.
Gentle reminder that Iran was helping Russia to attack Ukraine and never showed any interest in international law or human rights. Why should we care? I most definitely don’t. Hope their fascist regime crumbles as fast as possible.
We should care because we should stand for international law.
We should, unfortunately we’ve been alone with that for too long. The world didn’t care when Ukraine was invaded… the international law is dead since then.
So what? We should still stand for international law.
Sure, but don’t expect me to do any pressure to our politicians about standing for international law with a regime that would love to kill us and is helping to kill Ukrainians everyday. Not my war, washing my hands like Pilate.
I hope both Russia and Iran will get rid of their fascist regime, rather sooner than later. But despite Russia not caring about international law, I do think it held them back when invading Georgia or anexing Crimea. Now any country can do as they please, because if America doesn’t have to follow the rules, why would they? Imagine having to teach a class where everybody has to follow the rules but one kid can do anything he wants - recipe for chaos i tell you. I’m not saying the EU should stand with the Iran, but they should at least point out that America is breaking the rules in the way they are getting rid of this awful regime.
But who’s following the rules? Not Russia, not Iran, not Azerbaijan, not Sudan, not Rwanda, not Ethiopia… And the list goes on. This is not new. The question is more, why would the US follow them if no one else does and there’s no consequence?
This is backwards. The US is the hegemon. They set the standard. The others don’t follow the rules because the US were breaking them.
It’s not 1945 anymore, for long that the us is not hegemon, its relative power is smaller every year.
The US is illegally bombing Iran without repercussions. No sanctions from anybody, hardly any criticism from the allies. To me, that’s still a hegemon.
Oh I missed the part where Russia’s allies critized their invasion of Ukraine. It’s not, not only there’s a growing rival, China, you have more mid-powers than ever before, from Pakistan and India, to Turkey or even Ethiopia.
What does that have to do with the US being or not being the hegemon?
Growing. Are they there yet? As far as I know they can’t project their power globally, unlike the US.
So the US are “still a hegemon”.
If China is not global, neither is the US. No one touches each other’s “backyards”. The US had a treaty obligation to defend Ukraine from Russia and never did it (provide some weapons is not the same as actively defending a country).
Totally true, but the us is supposed to be one of the adults, not one of the children. And there isn’t always no consequence, especially if a country like us would recognize the international courts.
yeah, i think it was perun that might have mentioned the shaheed manufacturing being a huge impact player for the russian side
I just see three terrible countries at war with each other. I don’t see why we have to root for any of them. Seems like a Win-Win-Win to me.