What you’re describing has already happened in the US and China entering the market would break it. But since it’s western car companies doing it you don’t have an issue with it.
Oh, and most of those new Chinese EVs are actually way, way higher quality than even European brands.
What you’re describing has already happened in the US and China entering the market would break it.
🤦♂️
Please elaborate on how the market being divided amongst dozens of brands from nations all over the world is the same as a single, powerful entity like Amazon or Walmart controlling the entire market?
Some of the best selling cars here come from Japanese and South Korean companies, but go on with this nonsense about western companies (did you move the goal posts? I thought it was American companies just one comment ago) controlling everything. Are Japan and SK “western” countries now?
Oh, and most of those new Chinese EVs are actually way, way higher quality than even European brands.
Whoa, cool. What do you define as “quality” exactly? Most of the luxury European vehicles need very expensive maintenance on a regular basis to stay road worthy. I don’t consider over-engineering and ‘premium’ materials to be a sign of quality, I consider it a sign of marketing manipulation.
Please elaborate on how the market being divided amongst dozens of brands from nations all over the world is the same as a single, powerful entity like Amazon or Walmart controlling the entire market?
Because they’re a cartel. Next question. Brazil had a similar issue with all the big worldwide brands essentially colluding to keep prices high until the Chinese EVs crashed the market and forced them to bring prices down and offer better customer support.
What do you define as “quality” exactly?
Those Chinese EVs are actually quite simple to fix and maintain. The only issue really is getting the parts, but at least in Brazil, they have plenty of spares they imported directly from the Chinese mainland to help fix those vehicles. And in the event you go to their shop and your car needs a part that isn’t available, they’ll import said part for you and pay all of the fees - you just pay for the part and labor.
I’ll “be in a rabbit hole” from buying a new car? I don’t even know what that’s supposed to mean.
Is it supposed to be a criticism of the price? Are you suggesting we should give Trump more of our tax dollars so that he pass them along to automakers like China does to disguise the true price of their vehicles? Maybe have him take all those immigrants sitting in concentration camps and force them to work in rare-earth mines for no pay too? That’s what you’re advocating for here, along with laying off all those Americans working auto manufacturing jobs, and it’s all so you can buy one cheap new car before the enshittification begins. How gross.
No, that has nothing to do with my argument. It has to do with the fact that buying a new car in the US is a complete scam that was only allowed to happen because the western car manufacturers used regulatory capture to make an entire cartel for the market. It’s flooded with 100k light trucks, terrible payment programs, and the entire thing is designed to keep you in massive debt. A 12k dollar Geely EX2 would completely blow up this scam.
That has everything to do with your argument because that’s exactly how China sells these cars for that price. You must be ignorant of that fact and think they have some magical ability to produce something so cheaply and nobody else on the planet can figure it out or replicate it.
buying a new car in the US is a complete scam that was only allowed to happen because the western car manufacturers used regulatory capture to make an entire cartel for the market. It’s flooded with 100k light trucks, terrible payment programs, and the entire thing is designed to keep you in massive debt.
Quite the rambling rant here. What specific regulations are you referring to? How could the market be flooded with $100k trucks if nobody wants them? What do auto manufacturers have to do with payment plans? You may not be aware of this, but loans come from banks and those loans have interest rates set by the federal reserve, which sets rates for all loans. Some manufacturers do offer loans but they’re always short term with lower than market interest rates to incentivize people to buy new. Furthermore, who or what is setting the requirement that people buy brand new cars in order to trap them in this massive debt?
What you’re describing has already happened in the US and China entering the market would break it. But since it’s western car companies doing it you don’t have an issue with it.
Oh, and most of those new Chinese EVs are actually way, way higher quality than even European brands.
🤦♂️
Please elaborate on how the market being divided amongst dozens of brands from nations all over the world is the same as a single, powerful entity like Amazon or Walmart controlling the entire market?
Some of the best selling cars here come from Japanese and South Korean companies, but go on with this nonsense about western companies (did you move the goal posts? I thought it was American companies just one comment ago) controlling everything. Are Japan and SK “western” countries now?
Whoa, cool. What do you define as “quality” exactly? Most of the luxury European vehicles need very expensive maintenance on a regular basis to stay road worthy. I don’t consider over-engineering and ‘premium’ materials to be a sign of quality, I consider it a sign of marketing manipulation.
Because they’re a cartel. Next question. Brazil had a similar issue with all the big worldwide brands essentially colluding to keep prices high until the Chinese EVs crashed the market and forced them to bring prices down and offer better customer support.
Those Chinese EVs are actually quite simple to fix and maintain. The only issue really is getting the parts, but at least in Brazil, they have plenty of spares they imported directly from the Chinese mainland to help fix those vehicles. And in the event you go to their shop and your car needs a part that isn’t available, they’ll import said part for you and pay all of the fees - you just pay for the part and labor.
“Because I’ll say anything to be right even if it doesn’t have any basis in reality”
Every EV is simple to fix and maintain because they’re much more simple than ICE vehicles. This isn’t anything inherent to Chinese EVs in particular.
Try buying a new car right now in the US. You’ll be in a rabbit hole so deep it’ll reach the Earth’s core.
I’ll “be in a rabbit hole” from buying a new car? I don’t even know what that’s supposed to mean.
Is it supposed to be a criticism of the price? Are you suggesting we should give Trump more of our tax dollars so that he pass them along to automakers like China does to disguise the true price of their vehicles? Maybe have him take all those immigrants sitting in concentration camps and force them to work in rare-earth mines for no pay too? That’s what you’re advocating for here, along with laying off all those Americans working auto manufacturing jobs, and it’s all so you can buy one cheap new car before the enshittification begins. How gross.
No, that has nothing to do with my argument. It has to do with the fact that buying a new car in the US is a complete scam that was only allowed to happen because the western car manufacturers used regulatory capture to make an entire cartel for the market. It’s flooded with 100k light trucks, terrible payment programs, and the entire thing is designed to keep you in massive debt. A 12k dollar Geely EX2 would completely blow up this scam.
That has everything to do with your argument because that’s exactly how China sells these cars for that price. You must be ignorant of that fact and think they have some magical ability to produce something so cheaply and nobody else on the planet can figure it out or replicate it.
Quite the rambling rant here. What specific regulations are you referring to? How could the market be flooded with $100k trucks if nobody wants them? What do auto manufacturers have to do with payment plans? You may not be aware of this, but loans come from banks and those loans have interest rates set by the federal reserve, which sets rates for all loans. Some manufacturers do offer loans but they’re always short term with lower than market interest rates to incentivize people to buy new. Furthermore, who or what is setting the requirement that people buy brand new cars in order to trap them in this massive debt?
I’ll refer to you to those three videos by a car enthusiast who’s got a good grip on what entails to buy a car in 2026, even an used one.