Pope Leo XIV has traveled to the Canary Islands, an epicenter of the European migration debate. He challenged countries to uphold migrants’ rights while shaming those leaders, including Christians, who turn them away with indifference.
The Catholic Church generally doesn’t care whether you personally obey its teachings. It states its position and people are free to ignore it. BTW, you do the classic mistake by unifying “religia” and “ecclesia”, which shows that you do not understand well the Christian Church and religion. Also, is the Catholic Church even the giant boogeyman you’re making it out to be? Christianity has been declining across much of the Western world for years, especially the Catholic Church.
What’s more interesting, however, is your selective outrage. You pointed out right away Christianity, but you seem also be perfectly comfortable with Islam, which is at least as large globally and often far more socially conservative on the very issues people complain about when discussing Catholicism.
But that’s pretty typical partisan behavior. Some people on the left have blind spots about religions they view as “protected” minorities. Some people on the right have blind spots about religions they identify with. Everyone’s principles tend to become flexible when their preferred tribe is involved.
The Catholic Church generally doesn’t care whether you personally obey its teachings
The CC is HUGELY influential in many countries where it severely curbs the rights of women, LGBT and minority religions. This “liberal progressive catholicism” is only a thing in USA.
“religia” and “ecclesia”
What relevance does it have in this discussion?
Also, is the Catholic Church even the giant boogeyman you’re making it out to be?
I am not sure what boogeyman i am making them out to be. But think my assesment of their hypocrisy is accurate.
Christianity has been declining across much of the Western world for years, especially the Catholic Church.
Good.
What’s more interesting, however, is your selective outrage.
Why are you bringing up islam? I don’t think islam is good either. All religions that seek to bring everyone under their banner are bad.
Are you Catholic since you are so addement about defending them?
If you do not understand the difference between ecclesia and religio, I cannot really help you further. It does, however, suggest a lack of understanding of some important concepts. Understanding that distinction would also answer your last question.
Edit: Ah, and by the way, saying that the decline of the Catholic Church is a good thing does not make you much different from the more extreme Christians you criticize. Both positions ultimately celebrate the weakening of a group.
Ah, and by the way, saying that the decline of the Catholic Church is a good thing does not make you much different from the more extreme Christians you criticize. Both positions ultimately celebrate the weakening of a group.
I am just happy that an organization that have decided life and death for people, cultures and religions for centuries is in decline. Hilariously, it happens due to the absolute choke hold it has had on the world, being lifted. As soon as it has fewer privileges or power, it is sent into a spiral of disappearing members.
Tell us what you are doing or „sacrificing“ for the migrants and poor except writing some bold accusations and demands on Lemmy.
I assume nothing.
I am not a massive, global, wealthy organization morally browbeating the rest of the world. The Catholic Church is.
The Catholic Church generally doesn’t care whether you personally obey its teachings. It states its position and people are free to ignore it. BTW, you do the classic mistake by unifying “religia” and “ecclesia”, which shows that you do not understand well the Christian Church and religion. Also, is the Catholic Church even the giant boogeyman you’re making it out to be? Christianity has been declining across much of the Western world for years, especially the Catholic Church.
What’s more interesting, however, is your selective outrage. You pointed out right away Christianity, but you seem also be perfectly comfortable with Islam, which is at least as large globally and often far more socially conservative on the very issues people complain about when discussing Catholicism.
But that’s pretty typical partisan behavior. Some people on the left have blind spots about religions they view as “protected” minorities. Some people on the right have blind spots about religions they identify with. Everyone’s principles tend to become flexible when their preferred tribe is involved.
The CC is HUGELY influential in many countries where it severely curbs the rights of women, LGBT and minority religions. This “liberal progressive catholicism” is only a thing in USA.
What relevance does it have in this discussion?
I am not sure what boogeyman i am making them out to be. But think my assesment of their hypocrisy is accurate.
Good.
Why are you bringing up islam? I don’t think islam is good either. All religions that seek to bring everyone under their banner are bad.
Are you Catholic since you are so addement about defending them?
If you do not understand the difference between ecclesia and religio, I cannot really help you further. It does, however, suggest a lack of understanding of some important concepts. Understanding that distinction would also answer your last question.
Edit: Ah, and by the way, saying that the decline of the Catholic Church is a good thing does not make you much different from the more extreme Christians you criticize. Both positions ultimately celebrate the weakening of a group.
I am just happy that an organization that have decided life and death for people, cultures and religions for centuries is in decline. Hilariously, it happens due to the absolute choke hold it has had on the world, being lifted. As soon as it has fewer privileges or power, it is sent into a spiral of disappearing members.