Several prominent Chinese figures, including top Harvard mathematician Liu Jun, award-winning computer scientist and blockchain expert Chen Jing and rising AI star Fu Tianfan, have since left the US and returned to China to take up roles in prestigious institutions in cities like Beijing, Nanjing and Shenzhen.

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        But who’s the self getting owned? In this case it’s the us

        • with a mythology as the bastion of freedom, nation of immigrants, melting pot, etc leaning fascist hard enough to drive people toward a known fascist country
        • with pride in science and innovation, leaning fascist hard enough to drive away the best and the brightest, the future of our science and innovation
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      You can’t even post about Winnie the Pooh in China. Just because America has gotten worse does not mean China has become good.

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        True, but just because China hasn’t become good doesn’t mean that it’s not now a better place to live for someone who looks even vaguely Chinese and is thus at high risk of becoming a victim of ICE

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          Many human rights organizations have criticized China’s treatment of minority cultures and ethnicities. Uighurs being the most well known.

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            Because it’s OK to ban Nazism, and punish people who spread Nazism because Nazism is against our values.
            But somehow it’s not OK to ban extreme religion for the exact same reasons.

            We need to get over the special pleading for religion. Religious extremism is just as harmful, probably even more than any other type of extreme ideology.
            There’s a reason MAGA is called a cult, and that’s because they are in denial of reality, and blindly believe harmful dogma. Just like extreme religion.

            In principle the acts of MAGA are also illegal in many ways in USA, but the law was never really upheld against them, and especially their leader. Once upon a time, treason of that kind would be illegal.
            And in much the same way, religious cults value their own rules more than the rules that are decided by society.

            Freedom of religion is considered a human right, but freedom FROM religion should be an at least equal right, especially for children.

            Nazism had roots in extreme religion to persecute the Jews to the point of outright exterminate them, and now MAGA too has roots in extreme religion, and has many of the bad signs Nazism had in Germany.
            I can understand why China doesn’t want that shit.

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              But somehow it’s not OK to ban extreme religion for the exact same reasons.

              Like Israel is doing in Gaza?

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                Obviously not, since Israel is doing the exact same the Nazis were, which is an actual genocide.
                I have not heard that China is killing off Uighur’s.

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                    With regard to Israel/Palestine, both sides are infested with religious dogma, but Israel is an invader of Palestine. Israel should have no say at all on what goes on in Palestine.
                    You are making a slippery slope argument.

                    What I said was the religion shouldn’t be allowed “special” pleading. Not that they can’t have rights.

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            You can’t post about JD Vance because that bloated face meme hurt his feelings. I’m sure any human rights groups worth their salt have had plenty to say about the US. They’ve been disappearing Muslims to black sites for decades. That among the litany of ways minorities are targeted. So what’s your point? That you’re so deep in American propaganda that you thought you had a point?

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              You can’t post about JD Vance because that bloated face meme hurt his feelings.

              Oh you can’t? Are you afraid for your life after having posted this then? Exactly which journalist has been imprisoned for re-sharing it?

              She went missing in Wuhan in May 2020. It later emerged that she had been taken by the Chinese authorities and detained in Shanghai, where she was convicted of “picking quarrels and provoking trouble” after a sham trial. Zhang Zhan was released on 13 May 2024 after completing a four-year prison sentence.

              https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2025/09/china-journalist-zhang-zhan-sentenced-to-prison-again-on-baseless-charges/

              People only see black and white. Everything is “completely free” or “it’s all just equally bad.” Sooo frustrating. You have no concept of shades of gray do you?

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            Yeah, I know. I’m DEFINITELY not saying that China’s a good place to live.

            Just that it’s perhaps a less bad place to live for some people than the fascist-occupied US is.