France says it has seized an oil tanker in the Mediterranean suspected of being part of Russia’s sanction-busting “shadow fleet”.
French President Emmanuel Macron said the tanker, named the Grinch, was “subject to international sanctions and suspected of flying a false flag”.
The French navy, with the assistance of allies including the UK, boarded the vessel on Thursday morning between Spain and Morocco. French maritime authorities said that a search of the vessel had “confirmed the doubts as to the regularity of the flag”.
Russia’s embassy in Paris said it had not been informed of the seizure.
When the US did this, everyone was quick to call it piracy. Which, to be fair, it practically was, although I can’t say I have any sympathy for Putin.
There’s a difference between seizing oil tankers because you want their oil, and seizing them because they’re funding an illegal and needlessly destructive war. The first is as explicitly piracy as you can get, the second might be justifiable as sanctions, though definitely in a grey area that most countries would have preferred to stay out of.
But I’m all for seizing the entire shadow fleet and sending the profits to Ukraine.
“we are stealing oil because of the rules”
Do you enjoy submitting to bullies?
It’s Russia that threw the rules out of the window. The EU and Ukraine have been the most rules abiding powers here. The only ones, arguably. It’s hamstringing them, and en helping the aggressor that doesn’t respect any rules. Sometimes you just have to hit back. And this is still very mild.
the US is the biggest bully in the world for some decades now.
i don’t enjoy getting bombed and regime changed by the us, no.
I can’t help but notice you’re very careful not to say anything negative about Russia, despite their illegal invasion, their war crimes and their utterly brutal and inhuman tactics.
But do you and your children enjoy being bombed by Russia?
If you do, move to Ukraine.
“*.ml”
the fuck you talking about. you are french.
sorry to break it to your tiny little head but you are the problem.
There are literally dozens upon dozens of treaties and agreements signed by Russia which they are breaking. It’s fair no matter how you try to spin it in your own head.
you mean the ones western bureaucrats are openly saying don’t hold anymore?
coming up with the rules then saying the rules benefit only you is a sham anyway.
So either the rules hold, and the seizing was legitimate, or they don’t hold anymore, meaning it doesn’t matter it was seized?
What were you arguing again?
i was arguing that some people would be mad if china did it, now that it’s “ok”.
i don’t think they would, but it would be amusing.
So you were arguing a hypothetical point that hasn’t actually happened. I’m not sure what the point of that is, you’re essentially shoehorning people in a position that you believe they might take, despite them not actually having done so (and possibly wouldn’t take in the first place).
Word of advice: don’t. People tend to not respond well to what is essentially a strawman argument. Don’t focus on hypotheticals but on what has actually happened and what people are actually arguing in favour of. Otherwise you’re having an imaginary discussion with imaginary people.
Atm France has a smidgen more credibility than the US
Russia are shit heels. The US are shit heels. Thanks for playing. Harrasing aggressors like Russia is good actually. Thanks for playing.
I wrote this on another post, but copying it here because it’s same shit, different user (or is it?)
Yeah you’re leaving about a tonne of relevant details and context out.
Like that I too can make idiotic assertions.
Ukraine bombed Russian oil refineries! How could they, they’re so evil, can you imagine them attacking European infrastructure?
See what I did there? I left out the little tid bit of Russia being a cruel dictatorship supported by oligarchs who invaded Ukraine for bullshit reasons and has committed genocide multiple times now, which is the reason for Ukraine fighting back.
Now you do you. Look at what you wrote and point out the list of issues that explains all you wrote, but that you conveniently left out.
Illt wait
Did you assume I was defending Putin on this?
Putin’s a piece of shit and I hope all his crap gets plundered and the proceeds transferred to the Ukrainian drone fund.