The worst and most stupid bit is this:
Speaking to crowds on Wednesday, vice president JD Vance said US allies are “suffering from this, frankly, more than we are.”
He claimed this was because they had “focused on a lot of green energy scams and they’re hurting a lot more than we are.”
Vance continued:"As much as we’ve got to focus on getting these gas prices down, the reality is overseas they’re feeling it far worse than we did because we’ve taken the steps to protect our energy economy.
Yup because that’s the bar we want set.
Other countries suffer more than us. Great job /s
I kind of suspect this is the entire point of this conflict. The US is not immune to global oil supply disruptions, but we are a net exporter now, while China relies very heavily on foreign imports. I would not be at all surprised if this was a way to put the hurt on China and the rest of the world, while blaming Iran for it. Of course Epstein distraction too, but not only that.
China will not be impacted that much as you think. China is much more oil independent than before. Unlike the US, China invests heavily in green energy and nuclear energy. The only country that is behind in all of this, it’s the US.
why would this be good
and why would green energy lead to this result
In Spain, for example, electricity prices remain low thanks to renewable energy. This guy is stupid.
He is not stupid. He is deliberately deceiving his voters.
Why not both?
“We created an unnecessary serious problem, but it causes more grief for you than for us! So why don’t you come help us fix it (at our direction of course).”
Gee, can’t guess why that might get some allies p.o.'d…
Not mention they didn’t even tell them they were going to do it before they did it. Why should allies trust Trump’s America when they stabbed them in the back at every turn?
UK - petrol prices are rising.
Electricity prices are falling because most of our energy is from renewables and british/european gas.
Sucks for me because my car is a petrol one. My wife’s is electric and it costs about £4 for her to charge up overnight and that gets her about 250-280 miles of range (£0.01 per mile).
My car costs £55 to fill up for 400 miles per range (£0.13 per mile).
Although my car is cheaper
Edit - changed currency symbol…realise 0.01p isnt the same as 1p…
You should be ok with the fact that you need a car to live. You shouldn’t live where this is the case.
If 15 minute cities ever become a reality and i can walk to work/the shops/doctors/pub etc then I’ll glady give up the car.
That isn’t the case and I’d rather not move house thanks
What car does she have? Mines costing about 2p/mile in summer and a whopping 2.9p/mile in winter
A mini.
I might have the sums wrong, but we are on the octopus EV tariff so electricity is dirt cheap overnight.
Also 0.01p is 1p. Should have put the pound sign instead lol
But yeah, its insane how cheap it is.
The only kicker is her car costs £100 a month in payments more than mine.
It’s interesting seeing how mine, ionic 5, compares to others in real life. Only reason I got mine was is was one of the few cars somebody could sit behind me, with seat front seat Ben comfortable for driving.
I’ve got the first service 40k miles soon, compared to my wife’s at 10-12k, but realistically 6k for the oil, stupid HDi diesel engine
She has the Aceman that is 5-door so I think you can sort of fit people in the back seat but it isnt comfortable for tall people. No boot space at all though
The US has allies??
Supposedly it has Israel, but they haven’t offered to send any help. Seems like that relationship just goes one way.
trump has, which is mostly PUTIN AND MSB.
Not after this we won’t.
US does not have allies. US & Osreal created the Iran war, US can clean up the mess.
TIL US imports 97% of crude oil that Canada produces which is 60% of all US crude oil imports.
That has been a long running problem for Canada. It has the raw crude, but not the refining capacity. If you’re just a resource extraction location, then you’re no better than a colony; that’s why Trump treats Canada the way he does.
Allies? I though we made it clear that the us has no allies in this war. Nobody want ww3 only to distract the brainwashed population of an awful pedophile from a list that he will do anything to hide it. At this point they are alone with the mess, deal with it.
I’m pretty sure he thinks allies of the US are beta males that follow the US alpha male…
Stupid toxic masculinity and their constant attempts to cover up their weakness and insecurities by pretending they are ‘real men’. And ‘real men’ don’t have empathy. So they behave like self serving pricks.
Why do people vote baby brained bullies into positions of power?
I’m pretty sure he thinks allies of the US are beta males that follow the US alpha male…
Vance said Trump was “America’s Hitler”. Before Vance realized that he could get power by supporting Trump.
You seem to be using “he thinks” in the sense “Vance genuinely believes”. I am not convinced Vance believes anything, his actions look like pure opportunism.
Before
VancePeter Theil realized that he could get power by [making Vance] supportingTrump.No conservatives believe anything. They say and do whatever helps them in that moment and in the next moment they’ll say and do the opposite as long as it helps them. They’re animalistic, idiots who only react to things. There’s no long term thinking, there’s no layered thinking it’s just “you think this is bad, so I’m going to say it’s good”
It’s really true.
The fact that Vance actually said that shows just how shitty of a person he is. If he recognizes the kind of person Trump is and still tries to use him to get into a position of power is scummy af.
I cannot even begin to parse how he thought any of those words were a good idea, let alone in that order.
This is genuinely one of the dumbest things I have ever heard a human being say. Not only is it ludicrously, hilariously wrong, but even if it wasn’t, why would that be a good thing? Why would you want to proudly declare how much you fucked over your allies?! Does he know what the word “ally” means? Do any of them know?
Because punching down is the American ethos. On a macro and a micro level.
Who is his target audience with this speech and why would this impress them?
Stupid fucking prick
What’s worse is that people actually believe him.
he did reaped the popes soul.
What’s even worse is that they think that it’s a good argument by him.
Eh, I don’t know… These MAGA’s are more monsters than people at this stage.
He’s not stupid, his voting base is.
This. He knows he is wrong here. He just doesn’t care.
That’s a bit too polite for me
Ironically investing in renewable energy and EVs is how Europe can increase its energy independence. It’s not like they can pump that oil from their ground.
I imagine this war will speed up this conversion even more.
One of the biggest advantages to EVs is that they can can get their power from anywhere. And even if the current power generation is from fossil fuels, as that changes so does the overall carbon “usage” of the vehicles.
The difference is also striking when you just look at energy conversion from the fuel source in the vehicle. That EV is around 85% efficient overall at turning that electricity from the wall to movement. For a gas car, you’re looking at between 12-30% of the energy in the fuel tank being converted.
Exactly this. Thanks for mentioning it, i was listing it for exactly that reason, but I guess most people probably still think the only benefit is being environment friendly when it is also let to energy independence.
This is great video explaining common misconceptions: https://youtu.be/KtQ9nt2ZeGM
The main difference is that a modern battery has an energy density of about 0.7 MJ/kg or 700 kJ/kg, whereas gasoline has an energy density of about 45.7 MJ/kg. So, you need to pack in a lot more batteries to allow an electric car to go a meaningful distance. And, you’re hauling around all that extra weight all the time, even when the batteries are nearly empty.
The weight of the fuel tank is dwarfed by the weight of the engine, which can go from 100 (petrol kei car) to 300 (diesel) kg. The battery packs on modern EVs are still heavier, usually in the 200 - 400 kg range, but the difference isn’t as stark as fuel density alone might suggest.
Apparently an average fuel tank can hold somewhere between 40 and 80 litres. So, that’s up to (0.75 * 80 = 60) 60 kg of fuel, which can supply 2.74 GJ of energy. If you wanted 2.74 GJ of batteries in your car, it would weigh about 4000 kg. That’s double the weight of an F150, or basically the weight of a F350, engine, fuel tank, wheels, etc. included.
Now, of course, nobody puts that much battery capacity into a car or truck.
The point is, it’s not an apples to oranges comparison when you talk about the energy efficiency of an EV vs. a ICE car. ICE cars are inefficient, but carry around a very energy dense fuel source and can go hundreds, sometimes thousands of km without needing to stop. EVs have much more efficient engines, but have to drag around really heavy batteries that aren’t very energy dense. Their range is very constrained because if you wanted to match the range of an ICE car you’d have to almost double the weight of the car in batteries alone.
Personally, I like mass transit and bikes. But, if I had to own a car I’d get an electric one. Still, I know that the major drawback to electric cars is that battery energy density sucks compared to gasoline.
The point is, it’s not an apples to oranges comparison when you talk about the energy efficiency of an EV vs. a ICE car.
Energy efficiency does matter because even if you are burning diesel to generate electricity, you can make power stations a lot more efficient than car engines. So shifting from ICE cars to EVs would reduce fuel use even in the absence of green electricity.
ICE cars are inefficient, but carry around a very energy dense fuel source and can go hundreds, sometimes thousands of km without needing to stop. EVs have much more efficient engines, but have to drag around really heavy batteries that aren’t very energy dense.
This is true, but like I said, the difference isn’t huge. An ICE car’s fuel + engine would be in the 100 - 400kg range, while an EV’s batteries + motor would be in the 200 - 500kg range. An additional 10% or so of weight is bad, but is outweighed by the at least fourfold increase in efficiency.
60 kg of fuel, which can supply 2.74 GJ of energy
‘Contain’, not ‘can supply’ 2.74 GJ of energy. At 20% efficiency, you’d need a 800kg battery to match.
This is what I’ve been saying as well. For ages now. However I was listening to pre election political debate with parties on TV and everybody just kept talking about oil, oil and oil. Nobody even mentioned alternatives or anything else at all. And we even have a prime minister coming straight from electric energy distributor. So I’m not putting too much fate here.
This is very good video to send to anyone who fell for it https://youtu.be/KtQ9nt2ZeGM
It addresses pretty much every argument thrown.
It’s not ironic at all.
I was referring to what he said. He said that Europe has those problems because it prioritized renewable energy and EVs instead (what he implied) pumping oil (or that snake actually meant Europe getting its security by purchasing oil from Russia, which is the complete opposite of security)
