• pH3ra@lemmy.mlBanned
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    6 days ago

    Fuck now ai have to vote for the anti-immigration party… /s

  • 𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    I left. No regrets, just a lot of grief. As a trans immigrant, the US does not and has never represented me.

    Fun fact, I still have to pay US taxes but I can’t renew my US passport. What’s that about taxation without representation?

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    9 days ago

    is it irony that the regime bending over backward for privileged people is most of all driving out privileged people

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    9 days ago

    I Left a long time ago (for the second time) and will never go back. My kids got a far better education, my income prospects greatly improved, and life here is just …easier. Mind you I left from NYC which is everything except easy. Still love NYC but will not go back to visit under these circumstances.

    My wife and I fought actively for change on the local level. It changed nothing.

  • MochiGoesMeow@lemmy.zip
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    8 days ago

    Im too depressed to leave. Like just the fact a human being would prefer only high skill humans just is the most human comment ever in this thread.

    Not “itd be cool to get the nicest people”. But just saying we prefer skills and screw the others. I really dont have faith in humanity anymore.

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    9 days ago

    If there’s ever a way to take a history of everyone that gets grifted by this it will be fascinating and horrifying

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    8 days ago

    On one hand - great news. Fewer workers and potential conscripts for the US empire.

    On the other hand - I don’t think anyone wants even a single American more in their own country.

    Side note - how on earth are other countries still respecting US driver’s licenses?

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      8 days ago

      I’ll take American doctors and high skill professionals. They’re always welcome here in Canada

      Plus the people leaving are going to be heavily heavily biased against Trump I think. Why would a MAGA cult member abandon their great nation? It’s not even finished becoming great again? Are they that tired of winning?

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        8 days ago

        This right here. The smartest people I know are “leftists”. The “right” is filled with majority regressive thinkers and the uber rich brainwashing those idiots into hatred.

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              Been that way since before the founding. We have a half dozen examples of groups that were kicked out of their home countries for being too hateful setting up shop here. It’s a fundamental part of the culture. Brainwashing implies the (forcible) changing of one’s thoughts and opinions. That’s largely not applicable here since it’s all baked in from the get go.

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    9 days ago

    While I certainly understand someone who feels threatened and doesn’t want to become another cautionary tale about misjudging fascists capacity for murder, I’m concerned that the exodus of people who oppose the regime just further solidifies their hold.

    It also increases the risk for those left behind who can’t leave.

    If you’re leaving because you expect to die if you stay, then godspeed to you. If you’re leaving because you’d rather go someplace where you can pretend it doesn’t affect you, then fuck you.

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      9 days ago

      I left pre-Trump, for personal reasons. I’ll never go back.

      And I think it’s unwise to judge those who leave rather than staying and fighting. My ex’s family came to the US from Poland in the 1930s. The family that remained in Poland were sent to the camps and murdered. People make their own choices, and it’s sanctimonious to lecture those who choose differently than you did. And staying and actually fighting is not the same as being a keyboard warrior, either. I’m not saying you are, but many others are.

      We’ve got our own fasc problem here, too. I’m doing what I can. Lemmy’s not the place to go into more detail than that.

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        Of course you would, you left.

        I love how you think it’s sanctimonious that others judge it. They’re leaving because of a bad vote result; something they had the choice to participate in and fix.

        That’s it. Vote results. Personal reasons.

        Not a world war, like the Poles and Jews suffered. Not starvation and brutality. A fuckin vote result.

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          That’s it. Vote results.

          Tell that to people being tortured in El Salvador, or beaten and murdered by ICE, or the kids dying because they weren’t vaccinated, or trans people deprived of health care. Or go tell it to the people outside the US who have been slaughtered because of “vote results.”

          Not starvation and brutality.

          Childhood poverty has skyrocketed, and some of that is at starvation level. It’ll get worse. Brutality? See above.

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            Tell that

            That’s the job of those US citizens who didn’t vote, or voted badly in that country, not of those who repeatedly reminded them where they’d be if they didn’t vote and got told to mind their own business. For years too, not just the last three elections

            So yeah. Vote results and put your responsibility elsewhere.

            Child poverty….

            Yes, because the US repeatedly refuse to turn out to their elections and the few tgat do continue to vote lunatics in. Again, something their voters are on the hook for, not an outsider.

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      9 days ago

      Ignore this guy. Run if you have the means. The US will self immolate and anyone who can escape should

      If you want to stay to defend your home with direct action Godspeed

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        Yeah nah they’re right.

        Stay and fight for it if you can.

        Are you going to fight for your new country if your old countrymen come for it? The answers I’ve received so far on this question are pretty bad.

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          Are you going to fight for your new country if your old countrymen come for it?

          Yep. It’ll have to be in a support capacity, though, since I’m old.

    • 𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍@lemmy.world
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      9 days ago

      Someone’s decision to leave is theirs and theirs alone. I fully understand why people who have the means decide to stay, I also know firsthand how difficult it is to leave. Leaving is not an easy choice by any metric, and I’m not going to die in a repurposed Kmart so that the privileged majority can remain comfortable.

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        The USA made it very clear that they want to kill me. I went to my us rep with a half dozen other trans people and said “we believe the government has genocidal intent towards us”.

        He said “yeah I don’t disagree with you”

        “Can you make a public statement in support of your trans constituents?”

        “No because then someone in Ohio might not vote Democratic”

        This was in one of the safest blue districts in the entire country.

        I have kids I need to keep alive and to stay alive for.

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      7 days ago

      Be good if they put as much effort into that and voting as they do whining about it and downvoting us ay

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      8 days ago

      This is exactly the sentiment of Republicans here when migrants come to the US to seek a better life.

      Congrats on not being better than them, but just being somewhere else.

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        No more American’s in my country

        complaing to me, a local,

        about immigrants. I can’t fucking do it anymore.

        if you’re tired of hearing it, have you thought about shutting the fuck up?

        1000004095

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          Only an American would tell someone from another country talking about Americans complaining in their country to shut the fuck up.

          If you’re not an American you should know better.

          How about they fuck off back to America.

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              Nope, you just don’t like hearing it, for the pathetic excuses you’re doing it.

              No point has gone over my head. You just can’t handle the mirror.

              It’s no different for all of us with the spine to call it. It’s a shame you couldn’t show the same commitment at the polling booth that you do with whining and reacting badly to others that are sick of giving your shit a free pass.

              Not just here either.

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                your anger is so adorable, misplaced, but adorable.

                I can imagine you’re just like an angry little leprechaun.

                ok buddy, go on back to your rainbow before you hurt yourself.

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      Leaving does help, doesn’t it? Think about it: Fewer workers, fewer taxes, and fewer potential soldiers.