A North Korean imposter was uncovered, working as a sysadmin at Amazon U.S., after their keystroke input lag raised suspicions with security specialists at the online retail giant. Normally, a U.S.-based remote worker’s computer would send keystroke data within tens of milliseconds. This suspicious individual’s keyboard lag was “more than 110 milliseconds,” reports Bloomberg.

Amazon is commendably proactive in its pursuit of impostors, according to the source report. The news site talked with Amazon’s Chief Security Officer, Stephen Schmidt, about this fascinating new case of North Koreans trying to infiltrate U.S. organizations to raise hard currency for the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK), and sometimes indulge in espionage and/or sabotage.

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    I’m never quite sure how to feel about this. On one hand, if the person just wants to make some money and they’re doing the job, why bother them. On the other hand though, I know that anybody who has consistent access to an internet connection in North Korea is almost certainly working for the benefit of the great leader and they aren’t actually seeing any money or benefit for themselves. I just hate that the citizens of North Korea have to suffer and be punished because of their asswipe of a leader.

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      When you look at the ISS pics of NK during the night, you get a sense of how bad it is for most of the population.

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          Always curious to hear how NK has no electricity, but they manage to hack the systems of a trillion dollar conglomerate on the opposite side of the Pacific Ocean.

          The contradictions abound.

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            Do you seriously not realize that the corrupt dictatorial government might have a bit more quality of life things and resources than the oppressed peasant class?

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            An entire country of astronomy nerds sounds like a tourist destination to me!

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        It kind of amazes me they don’t have better infrastructure. It’s not like they’re shy about forced labor.

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          You can only do so much with forced labour. They aren’t doing their best, just “enough” to not get punished.

          I’m sure plenty of them also use malicious compliance and sabotage stuff to get back at the top brass.

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            You can only do so much with forced labour.

            There’s a certain irony in this statement, coming from folks who consume it regularly.

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        seeing the stars instead of light pollution doesn’t sound like a bad thing on its own

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      I know that anybody who has consistent access to an internet connection in North Korea is almost certainly working for the benefit of the great leader and they aren’t actually seeing any money or benefit for themselves.

      Eh, this doesn’t sound like the job you would give someone in a prison camp. You’re talking about people that you’re allowing to interact and work regularly with foreigners outside the country. That does not sound like the type of position you trust to a political prisoner. That sounds like a position you put someone of high trust. It’s probably a pretty cushy job as the standards of North Korea go. Sure beats scratching at dirt or working in some godawful arms factory. It’s probably the type of job you need some good family connections in the Party in order to get. Sure, the government takes all the direct monetary benefit of the work, but that is just kindof how Communist systems work. I imagine the people working those jobs have some of the highest standards of living available to people that aren’t senior party leadership.

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      They’re also a security threat. Any opportunity to exfiltrate potentially profitable or leverageable data will be taken. I’d bet they’re used to sniff out vulnerabilities for ransomware attacks too. I definitley identify and agree with the healthy sympathy (I guess empathy if you’re in the states, our leader more than qualifies as an asswipe) for the citizens of North Korea

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        They’re also a security threat. Any opportunity to exfiltrate potentially profitable or leverageable data will be taken

        But thats good, the USA is carrying out genocide in Palestine and is about to invade Venezuela. And Amazon is no saint either.

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          The US is enabling and providing political cover for the Palestinian genocide, Israel is carrying it out. I don’t think an invasion of Venezuela is imminent, just the same kind of underhanded manipulation and isolation that has been done to Cuba for the past half century. Agreed Amazon sucks.

          None of that changes the fact that only thing that these North Korean tech workers do is help Kim fund his military projects and his Bourgeoisie lifestyle

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            The US is enabling and providing political cover for the Palestinian genocide

            …and economic support, and military support defending their coastlines and boats, and military support defending them from Iran, and most of the weapons used on Palestinians are of US origin.

            just the same kind of underhanded manipulation and isolation that has been done to Cuba for the past half century

            Then you’ll be probably horrified to learn that US+EU economic sanction have murdered half a million people per year since 1971 per the latest academic health research estimates. This is more death than the deaths from war since 1971 on average.

            that only thing that these North Korean American tech workers do is help Kim Bezos fund his military projects and his Bourgeoisie lifestyle

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              I’m aware of all that about Gaza. No excuses from me, I find it horrifying and shameful. Same as far as sanctions go (I do agree with the Russia ones where it’s a tool to get an actual war to end, or individual sanctions in certain contexts). I agree with you on the last point too, it’s just that Jeff doesn’t style himself as a hero of the Proletariat. I dunno who’s responsible for more human suffering between the two, but the hypocrisy does piss me off. They can both get fucked as far as I’m concerned.

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      These people are definitely not there just to make some money. And whatever money they make will be used to prop up the genocidal regime.

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        Are you talking about the USA Amazon workers propping up the USA genocidal regime, as seen in Palestine? Because, AFAIK, there’s no genocide going on as a consequence of North Korea. Care to elaborate?

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          I’d say locking up a substantial part of your population, including their families in murderous gulags amounts to genocide. Oh, and did anybody say Arduous March?

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            I’d say locking up a substantial part of your population

            US has highest prison population in the world, 1 in 5 black men go through the prison system. Is that genocide?

            including their families

            This is fox news propaganda, similar level to “weapons of mass destruction in Iraq”

            gulags

            Gulags are just prisons. GULAG is the acronym of the penitentiary system of the USSR.