I finally got to read this article and the situation is even better/dumber with more context. I didn’t realize the layering at first.
This CEO used AI to avoid paying human lawyers to help him figure out how to avoid paying human game developers.
This asshole needs to get some kind of “Yo Dawg I heard you like AI” anti-award.
Jail would be nice. Someone shouldn’t be able to drag that many people through that much pain without repercussions beyond having to do the thing they were avoiding to begin with. Banning his stupid ass from running any more companies would be a decent outcome.
Haven’t the last few years made it clear that we live in a word without consequences ?
At least for those who most deserve them.
You can have punitive damages too.
hes one of those that fully believe the bs that is AI being hyped.
So, per the article, mr CEO didn’t want to pay the devopers their well earned extra from hitting a sales goal, so the wooden doll asked chatGePeTo how to avoid that. Even Gepeto said that it was going to “be difficult”, but Kim Becile insisted on a plan.
The first step was posting a message on Subanutica’s website to get fans on his side. According to court documents, Kim said the goal of the message was to “secure public support from fans and legal validation of our legitimacy.” He then suggested that ChatGPT write it for him. It achieved the opposite of his intended goal. Fans found the message bizarre and worried about the future of the game. Those fears were compounded when Kim fired the game’s original creators and entered into a legal battle with them.
I’d like to meet a CEO of a similar megacorp that isn’t both a complete fucking idiot AND an absolute psychopath. Surely there has to be one?
Just make me CEO of a company. Surely I can’t do worse than the crop of people they’re currently finding.
The CEO having the direct ability to post to the company website is wild on its own. Everywhere I have ever worked nothing got on the company website unless it went through the marketing people at a minimum. If it was from someone like the CEO it probably went through the legal team as well first.
Krafton is South Korean. How’s the corporate culture in South Korea? Are they as ritual-suicide-for-going-home-before-the-boss-does as Japan?
Basically same problems as Japan. Low birth rate, unrealistic work life balance that’s helped GDP but now both are facing demographic shock that’ll destroy the economy in a generation.
Considering Moon Channel’s video on South Korea (tldw; he explains around 24:40 in the video how strongly neoconfucianism became the state ideology and that still endures to this day - and how highly important hierarchy is), I would say that yes, an underling would NEVER dare go against someone above them.
More likely those in charge of moderation deliberately allowed him to shoot himself in the foot, given the kind of ass he is.
C-level jobs tend to attract a particular type of personality…
First thing I remember hearing was Krafton announcing that Subnautica would be a live service multiplayer game, and then Unknown Worlds coming right in behind saying No the hellfuck it’s not! It’s going to be a cooperative multiplayer game that players host locally, and we’ll be doing an early access campaign with continuing updates after the 1.0 release just like we did with Subnautica 1.
It has spiraled from there.
For the record this was not a dev company CEO. He’s the publisher company CEO, you know, the usual bastards.
OP if you’re gonna post a paywalled article, can you at least copy the full text of it into the thread? Most of us cannot read more than two paragraphs of this piece, ensuring that most participants here are talking around the headline only.
Paywall bypass: https://archive.is/yIkXA
Excellent! Thank you!
Try this:
Here’s a video if you wanna passively listen to it while working out to get all the anger at corporations out: https://youtu.be/T8dIXsS9sZA
Block java on the page :p
Dad you’re on the internet again, you know you’re not supposed to be on the internet, because you say dumb things and then people laugh at you.
You missed the part where that site is using client side code to run a ddos attack against whomever.
that’s a different thread
I was about to tell you that archive is doing that but then I realized that you are talking about paywall circumvention.
I mean this thread didn’t mention archive.today, it’s another reply to the top comment that did
Further proof of how many CEOs are psychopaths.
When asked about it AI said “No comment.”
Pretty sure AI would’ve said that with a much longer comment, likely 500 words at least
“That is a great response! Would you like me to look at other great responses that have been posted on Lemmy?”
Fuck krafton
Fuck Krafton.
This is a lot of what’s happening. LLM companies have convinced the eagerly selfish that LLMs can empower them to do things they currently rely on others for, faster and better, and the early adopters are making very risky decisions that are blowing up in their faces. The current US admin is one of these groups of eagerly selfish, believing LLMs will empower them to be capable of things they simply aren’t, like seizing power and ruling America forever.
What did ChatGPT tell him to do, exactly?
What actually happened, apparently. Fire them to avoid payout.
Who knew?
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RTFA
Because the article is about Subnautica, and the legal battle between private equity everything ruiner firm Krafton and Unknown Worlds Entertainment, the game dev studio best known for the Subnautica series.
Haha lol
Kim: Aw shit I regret my contract. Maybe I can get out of it by lying. I need tons of lies. I need to lie and bullshit like a madman. I need to spout tons of absolute unhinged bullshit with a straight face.
ChatGPT: This. Is. My. Moment.
Sounds like our government. It sounds like our whole fucking modern society.
Too bad ChatGPT lacks the self-awareness (let alone any actual reasoning skills whatsoever) to appreciate it.
This sort of hilarious act of subversion (pun intended) makes me wonder if the loonies who think it’s sentient are right.
Nah chat GPT is just a verbal mirror, so the idiot puts his complete lack of legal knoweldge in and gets a complete lack of legal knowledge out.
I was against ChatGPT, but now I think it could be useful as a moron honeypot.
Who would have thought that the workers weren’t the real drones?!
Anyone who’s met ceos
We know what “C” stands for in that suite
Watching a CEO get fucked by using AI is orgasmic.
LLMs are fly honey for stupid people.
The CEO will be fine at the end of the day.
The workers are going to get fucked, though.
At the moment this is a win for the workers. They should get their full share of the payout, now. The main danger is now their parent company may be hostile to them (or even try to close them) until the parent company CEO gets replaced.
Yep as soon as the game is launched, LAYOFFS!!!
Sharing profits with the people who actually did the work is anti-capitalist.
until the parent company CEO gets replaced.
One would hope pulling such a boneheaded move ought to make that happen rather quickly.
Of course, if this CEO has been there for more than a year or 2, he would probably get a golden parachute for more than the value of his fuckup…
Yeah. These illegal firings happened around 9 months ago. I doubt these guys had the funds to just sit on the sidelines, doing nothing, hoping that the court would rule in their favour. Even if they’re offered their jobs back, it could be that by now they’ve made other commitments.
Even if they’re offered their jobs back, it could be that by now they’ve made other commitments.
Or just don’t want to contribute to an organization that tried to fuck them over in the past. I’d be much more inclined to get a payout and move on with my life. What’s the point of returning to a job and making more money for the people who just tried to get rid of you to save a buck?
With many businesses I’m sure that’s true. But, it might be different when you’re making something artistic. Subnautica has a lot of passionate fans, and it’s a unique kind of game. These guys might really want to finish this game that they poured a lot of themselves into. Maybe not, maybe they just want to move on. But, I think a lot of people who work on games really care about what it is they’re doing.
oh god, sounds like Krafton were already assholes. I bet the put the other 250 in and sell it in pieces.
